Why does a small aerodrome as Redhill need ATC? Is the traffic level that high or complex? It’s in the LGW CTR but could this not be effectively managed with a LOA and AIP published operating procedures?
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Originally Posted by TCAS FAN
(Post 11230482)
Why does a small aerodrome as Redhill need ATC? Is the traffic level that high or complex?
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[QUOTE=chevvron;11230473]Most likely Redhill; maybe but probably wrong, the current staffing at Gatwick is, well let’s use the term interesting!!
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Originally Posted by chevvron
(Post 11230557)
'Cos the CAA said they had to same as they did at Wycombe.
How come White Waltham get away with a LFA and A/G within the LHR CTR? |
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Originally Posted by chevvron
(Post 11230473)
Most likely Redhill; maybe but probably wrong, the current staffing at Gatwick is, well let’s use the term interesting!!
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Originally Posted by TCAS FAN
(Post 11230579)
Now is the time to challenge it and get SARG to justify their reasoning/logic? From recent experience with SARG this could be an interesting exercise with a justifiable response not forthcoming.
How come White Waltham get away with a LFA and A/G within the LHR CTR? So I shut up. |
Originally Posted by chevvron
(Post 11230614)
………..I don't know what criteria they apply but when I suggested a 'relaxation' of their rules to allow a form of 'land after' at a sometimes busy FISO location providing certain criteria were satisfied (so as to allow more flexible use of runway occupancy rather than have an unnecessary go around), I was told 'if your airfield is that busy, maybe we should look at upgrading you to ATC'.
So I shut up. We in the industry are expected to adopt a continuous improvement culture, from what I see it is rarely evident in SARG unless they are pushed or forced into it. While not having a 100% success rate I’ve experienced far more wins than losses when challenging what was “The Authority”, either directly or indirectly. |
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Originally Posted by Nimmer
(Post 11230571)
ANS are thinking of bidding for ATC services at a remote location ie remote tower etc but I can't tell you where.
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Originally Posted by chevvron
(Post 11230606)
however ANS don’t have the Gatwick contract anymore!! |
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Originally Posted by Nimmer
(Post 11230629)
Sorry I'm a bit out of touch; I'm still marvelling at NATS getting the contract for St Athan, so who's got it now then?
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Instructor job going with Micronav (ATC simulator supplier) in Bournemouth. Sounds like an interesting job in a nice part of the country
https://www.micronav.co.uk/job-vacancies/instructor/ |
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Originally Posted by chevvron
(Post 11230669)
ANS until October, then NATS are back! Meet the new boss…same as the old boss…
the staffing shortfall continues. |
SERCO looking for ATCOs for Dubai DXB (Tower) and Dubai DWC (Approach)
https://careers.serco.com/ME/job/Dub...uba/517938202/ https://careers.serco.com/ME/job/Dub...uba/517938302/ |
Originally Posted by therocketscientist
(Post 11230281)
Just wanted to say thank you for the new thread and the research. I believe the old thread is still lurking there somewhere however after a period of inactivity it gets buried and it's not that easy to bring it back up.
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Originally Posted by TCAS FAN
Now is the time to challenge it and get SARG to justify their reasoning/logic? From recent experience with SARG this could be an interesting exercise with a justifiable response not forthcoming.
How come White Waltham get away with a LFA and A/G within the LHR CTR? Some years ago - probably 20+ now - CAA SRG did research to try to determine metrics for where different levels of ATS were appropriate. They spent quite a lot of money with some external company as I recall, and the results were of little use, mainly because whatever the quantitative results that might be generated by the by the algorithms were said to have huge error bounds because of the variability of the subject. After that, there was some work done internally, using some of the ideas from the external study (perhaps to justify its cost), on an Excel spreadsheet - taking some of the variables such as total movements, busiest day, busiest hour, complexity (number of runways and taxiways), proximity of local airports and others which escape me after all this time - and applying factors to each element to try to rank all UK airports (above a certain size) to see whether there were any outliers in the data, unexpected FIS units amongst all the ATC units, for example. Again, not much of value came of it. Ultimately, the conclusion was that professional judgement was the best approach....although the judgement was to be that of the CAA inspectors - whether these were the best professionals I'll leave to you to decide. All of this work was done around the time that formal requirements were being introduced for ATC, and to a lesser extent, FIS units - in reality, the work was driven by the introduction of these rules in order to justify their introduction - which made running either ATC or FIS a lot more involved (and arguably while offering no tangible benefits) and, certainly for smaller airports, way more expensive. |
ATC instructor job in Saudi with BAE. Accommodation, expat package etc.
https://baesystems.taleo.net/careers...urope%2FLondon |
SERCO looking for a dual rated (ADI/APS) ATCO for Hawarden
https://careers.serco.com/UK/job/Bro...0DR/747218102/ |
I understand that Bahrain ACC is hiring. Does anybody have a contact email address?
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Any contacts in the ME for Tower jobs would be greatly appreciated if it could be sent via PM.
Does anybody have general package ideas for Hamad, AUH, DWC, Bahrain, DXB etc? FSP |
Originally Posted by FlyingSaucepan
(Post 11231884)
Any contacts in the ME for Tower jobs would be greatly appreciated if it could be sent via PM.
Does anybody have general package ideas for Hamad, AUH, DWC, Bahrain, DXB etc? FSP |
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