TWR providing APP control
Hello,
Im working on my bachelor thesis and want to know if anyone know a place, where TWR provide an approach control (either whole app or in form of director). I can think of some Polish airfields such is Lublin (TWR controls traffic up to FL135). Thank you |
I have seen several aerodromes like that in Turkey: LTAJ, LTAY, LTCA, LTCB, LTCD, LTCE, LTCF, LTCI, LTCK, LTCN, LTCO, LTCR, LTCS, LTCP, LTCT, LTCU, LTCV, LTCW, LTFD, LTFG...
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Biggin Hill (EGKB) ?
Gloucester (EGBJ) ? |
You probably need to make a distinction between a procedural approach control service and one using surveillance equipment.. Your reference to Director suggests that you are thinking about a surveillance service. A procedural control service, can usually be provided more easily although those with the necessary qualifications and competence are less commonly found compared with 'the old days'!
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Originally Posted by Bright-Ling
(Post 11202833)
Biggin Hill (EGKB) ?
Gloucester (EGBJ) ? Woodvale (EGOW) Perth (EGPT) |
Originally Posted by Equivocal
(Post 11202925)
You probably need to make a distinction between a procedural approach control service and one using surveillance equipment.
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Used to fly night flights into Bournemouth, 0300 ish. The controller would do the approach control from the radar room and when we were established on the ILS they would go upstairs and do the tower control. (only one person on duty).
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Used to fly night flights into Bournemouth, 0300 ish. The controller would do the approach control from the radar room and when we were established on the ILS they would go upstairs and do the tower control. (only one person on duty). 2 s |
Originally Posted by chevvron
(Post 11203353)
Cranfield (EGTC)
Woodvale (EGOW) Perth (EGPT) |
Originally Posted by 2 sheds
(Post 11203456)
They certainly should not have been doing that. Perhaps they had approval to do it from the aerodrome control room, otherwise....
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Originally Posted by Bright-Ling
True, but it does say APP, not APS
Don't know what the state of play is in the UK these days although the CAA was not keen on the idea of providing a surveillance service whilst also providing TWR when the idea was first mooted, I recall that there were limits on traffic (one at a time) so that the controller would not be providing both services at the same time. I think that, like many licensing 'policies' of the day, such limitations were relaxed quite quickly in certain circumstances - but, as I say, I've no idea how relaxed they've become. For what it's worth, the last time I was at Charleroi I think there was a single controller doing both aerodrome control and vectoring inbounds but I don't know if that was the normal mode of operation. |
Yes, there are several TWR's in New Zealand that provide both an aerodrome control and procedural approach control service. NZNV, NZDN, NZNS, NZNP, NZNR, NZGS.
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Originally Posted by 2 sheds
(Post 11203456)
They certainly should not have been doing that. Perhaps they had approval to do it from the aerodrome control room, otherwise....
2 s |
Originally Posted by Gonzo
(Post 11204132)
Didn’t the night shift ATCO at Bournemouth fall over and break a leg one night while on duty about 20 years ago or am I imagining that?
Apart from that, in the '70s no airfields in the north of Scotland had radar so the tower controller operated TWR and APP bandboxed; FISOs hadn't been invented so the tels officer was supposed to be trained to provide aerodrome information. |
Sorry not beeing specific and missleaded with the APP service. I ment APS... So TWR providing APS.. Radar services too.
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Originally Posted by Ross182
(Post 11204452)
Sorry not beeing specific and missleaded with the APP service. I ment APS... So TWR providing APS.. Radar services too.
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Originally Posted by chevvron
(Post 11204301)
Apart from that, in the '70s no airfields in the north of Scotland had radar so the tower controller operated TWR and APP bandboxed; FISOs hadn't been invented so the tels officer was supposed to be trained to provide aerodrome information.
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Originally Posted by Ross182
(Post 11202655)
Hello,
Im working on my bachelor thesis and want to know if anyone know a place, where TWR provide an approach control (either whole app or in form of director). I can think of some Polish airfields such is Lublin (TWR controls traffic up to FL135). Thank you |
LJPZ, LJMB, LJCE
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Originally Posted by Morris542
(Post 11204752)
I'm sure the chap in Toulouse was doing both last time I was there (that was before COVID though so might not be the case now). Wasn't much traffic around and can't remember much other than our surprise that he was doing everything at quite a large airport.
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