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Ayr-Rage 3rd Apr 2020 15:42

Furloughing in NATS
 
Oh dear !

"It is particularly disappointing that NATS middle managers in apparent uncoordinated haste are unable to restrain themselves from having inappropriate conversations around the subject at this time."


nodelay 3rd Apr 2020 16:34


Originally Posted by Ayr-Rage (Post 10738376)
Oh dear !

"It is particularly disappointing that NATS middle managers in apparent uncoordinated haste are unable to restrain themselves from having inappropriate conversations around the subject at this time."

And your point exactly is?

tigerinthenight 3rd Apr 2020 18:32

What have I missed?

The Fat Controller 3rd Apr 2020 19:49

If you are a PROSPECT member ask your local rep, I'd avoid your line manager !

I retired a while ago, but Marvin Gaye told me.

Ayr-Rage 7th Apr 2020 12:53

Things are moving quickly.

Coronavirus Job Retention Scheme Implementation (Furlough Agreement) in NATS

Any comments ?

BARRY_SCOTT 7th Apr 2020 13:20

Where's the quote from post #1 from?

The Fat Controller 7th Apr 2020 13:54

Post #4 gives you a big clue, Barry.

PS. It wasn't Marvin Gaye.

055166k 10th Apr 2020 10:15

Don't worry, really old bloke got it... if you mean "I heard it through the grapevine".

250 kts 10th Apr 2020 13:08


Originally Posted by Ayr-Rage (Post 10742517)
Things are moving quickly.

Coronavirus Job Retention Scheme Implementation (Furlough Agreement) in NATS

Any comments ?

Tough times for a previously "untouchable" workforce. Hope all are well, but I suspect things will never be quite the same again

mike current 10th Apr 2020 16:07


Originally Posted by 250 kts (Post 10745728)
Tough times for a previously "untouchable" workforce. Hope all are well, but I suspect things will never be quite the same again

Why should Nats (or ATC in general) be any different?
There is no work and no revenue in the industry at the moment.
By the way, it's not an untouchable workforce. 9/11 and 2008 had an impact. It's just that it's been forgotten about after 10 years of uninterrupted growth.

Gonzo 10th Apr 2020 16:38

Yes, there were a few managers who had conversations a bit too early, but overall I think NATS has done very well at communicating and treating their staff well.

250 kts 11th Apr 2020 09:46


Originally Posted by mike current (Post 10745838)
Why should Nats (or ATC in general) be any different?
There is no work and no revenue in the industry at the moment.
By the way, it's not an untouchable workforce. 9/11 and 2008 had an impact. It's just that it's been forgotten about after 10 years of uninterrupted growth.

I don't think i suggested we were any different to any other business. We were asked to comment on the actions NATS are taking and I did just that. In terms of untouchable I was merely referring to the fact that all of the other crises we have seen over the last few years that ATCOs have emerged relatively unscathed. How the industry emerges from this is just conjecture at present, but I can't see it being what we have become used to, in the foreseeable future.


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