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uuoret 5th Oct 2019 13:08

Edinburgh Turnhouse ATC Early 1970's
 
Hi,

I have been going through several of my fathers reel-to-reel tapes, and have come across 1 hour of ATC, Edinburgh Tower and Approach that he taped (I think) before 1975.

It features BealineTridents, BCAL One-Elevens, a Viscount and some other traffic. R/W in use appears to be 13, the aircraft using the "old" terminal and stands.

Would this be of interest to anybody here, and if so, where would be the best place to upload it to / host it?

It is in mp3 format and is 90mb in size.

J

chevvron 5th Oct 2019 13:35

I'm sure www.atchistory.wordpress.com would be most interested.

uuoret 5th Oct 2019 13:49

Thanks - I've contacted them!

John :)

uuoret 24th Oct 2019 12:38

Link if Anyone is Interested
 
https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...=turnhouse.mp4


LookingForAJob 24th Oct 2019 18:13

Interesting pics and audio. And all I can say is that was one very tolerant inbound Beeline pilot!!!

uuoret 25th Oct 2019 07:52

Bealine 8199 was a Viscount arriving from Inverness, then going onwards from Edinburgh to Glasgow.

Very tolerant indeed!!

Thanks for looking,

J

NorthSouth 28th Oct 2019 13:30


Originally Posted by uuoret (Post 10602875)
Bealine 8199 was a Viscount arriving from Inverness, then going onwards from Edinburgh to Glasgow.

Very tolerant indeed!!

Thanks for looking,

J

Sorry for pedantry, but ISTR that BE8199 was Wick-Aberdeen-Edinburgh


DaveReidUK 28th Oct 2019 14:55


Originally Posted by NorthSouth (Post 10605143)
Sorry for pedantry, but ISTR that BE8199 was Wick-Aberdeen-Edinburgh

Actually it was KOI-WIC-ABZ-EDI.

NorthSouth 28th Oct 2019 15:28


Originally Posted by DaveReidUK (Post 10605189)
Actually it was KOI-WIC-ABZ-EDI.

Indeed!
Interesting that the standard southbound clearance from EDI in those days - even for jets - was to cross TLA at FL40. I note that this was on a very high pressure day (QNH 1038). Presumably the standard clearance changed depending on the prevailing QNH? Otherwise the pax would get a bit of a fright passing TLA (alt 2756ft) at FL40 if, say the QNH was 980 :uhoh:


DaveReidUK 28th Oct 2019 16:50

I wondered about that, too. I have a feeling that TLA at FL60 was more normal. Even the Vanguards could manage that. :O

uuoret 28th Oct 2019 21:27


Originally Posted by DaveReidUK (Post 10605189)
Actually it was KOI-WIC-ABZ-EDI.

Thanks for the correction chaps - I'm sure you are right.

LSI-KOI-WIK-ABZ EDI

My Mother (from Shetland) flew this route several times......

DaveReidUK 28th Oct 2019 22:14


Originally Posted by uuoret (Post 10605393)
LSI-KOI-WIK-ABZ EDI

My Mother (from Shetland) flew this route several times......

She was lucky if she managed it all on one flight. The timetable may well have changed over the years, but I'm looking at one that shows the BE8015 routing LSI-KOI-WIC-INV-GLA, connecting at KOI and WIC with the departing BE8199 to ABZ and EDI.

Those were the days ...


NorthSouth 29th Oct 2019 09:49


Originally Posted by DaveReidUK (Post 10605421)
Those were the days ...

I once had a booking on the short-lived BEA Viscount service EDI-INV. Flight was cancelled (I suspect because of lack of pax) and they put us in a limo to Glasgow, then flew us Glasgow-Benbecula-Stornoway-Kinloss (INV closed for runway works) - plus I got a flight deck ride BEN-SYY, low level VFR up the west coast of Harris. And they apologised for the inconvenience!

uuoret 29th Oct 2019 11:02


Originally Posted by DaveReidUK (Post 10605421)
She was lucky if she managed it all on one flight. The timetable may well have changed over the years, but I'm looking at one that shows the BE8015 routing LSI-KOI-WIC-INV-GLA, connecting at KOI and WIC with the departing BE8199 to ABZ and EDI.

Those were the days ...

.....On reflection, I am sure that you are right. ISTR she had to change at WIC.......the fogginess of time!

Hope you enjoyed the tape!

John

qwerty2 2nd Nov 2019 14:43


Originally Posted by NorthSouth (Post 10605202)
Indeed!
Interesting that the standard southbound clearance from EDI in those days - even for jets - was to cross TLA at FL40. I note that this was on a very high pressure day (QNH 1038). Presumably the standard clearance changed depending on the prevailing QNH? Otherwise the pax would get a bit of a fright passing TLA (alt 2756ft) at FL40 if, say the QNH was 980 :uhoh:

IIRC , Going back to 1971 the TLA 40 was a standard clearance with the base at Talla being FL35. I seem to recall that we were aware of possible issues but it didn't bother us much.
If it wasn't a Wednesday afternoon our radar would climb traffic almost immediately after co ordination with Gailes.
On Wednesdays when radar was off , then traffic may have leveled for longer until Scottish had them identified or we did our procedural crossing stuff.
After 1976 life got easier with a new runway and more staff.


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