Originally Posted by cossack
(Post 10028164)
Its been a while since I've been there but since LBA is pretty much on top of a hill, are the wind farms nearby effectively below the radar's field of view?
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Originally Posted by PDR1
(Post 10028179)
Are you certain about that? From what I remember the Marshall budget wasn't anywhere near enough to replace all the primary radars along with all the other stuff that it had to cover.
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The PSR at Prestwick is an EN4000, as NorthSouth correctly pointed out, a hybrid Watchman but it is being replaced by a Terma Scanter 4002. This has been on site for over a year but hasn't been flight trialed yet.
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I noticed on eBay yesterday a couple of radar heads for sale, a Watchman and a Raytheon. Both, apparently, unused. I think I'll pass !
Is there any market for used S-band radars or do they end up in the scrapyard ? I often wonder what happened to the old ACR430 that graced Leeds Bradford for more than twenty years. The Watchman has outlived it by some margin. |
Originally Posted by Mooncrest
(Post 10028848)
I noticed on eBay yesterday a couple of radar heads for sale, a Watchman and a Raytheon. Both, apparently, unused. I think I'll pass !
Is there any market for used S-band radars or do they end up in the scrapyard ? I often wonder what happened to the old ACR430 that graced Leeds Bradford for more than twenty years. The Watchman has outlived it by some margin. By the way, the '430 is X-band (3cm) not S-band (10cm) From memory, the 430 head was not dissmilar to the Watchman head, the difference being the 'guts'. The 430 was a development of the 424/ACR7 which in turn was a development of a shipboard radar; the 424 only had a 'pencil' beam whereas the 430 had a pencil beam and a 'cosecant squared' beam same as the Watchman. The 430 operated on a pulse generated by a klystron or magnetron whereas the Watchman used a 'Travelling Wave Tube' or 'twit'. The 430 had no MTI, the Watchman had 'Adaptive MTI'. |
There was a Decca 424 at Leeds before the 430. It ended up at Brough.
Would Raytheon and Watchman spares be any good for a 424 ? It used to be Ford Anglia belts that were sought after ! |
Originally Posted by Mooncrest
(Post 10028965)
There was a Decca 424 at Leeds before the 430. It ended up at Brough.
Would Raytheon and Watchman spares be any good for a 424 ? It used to be Ford Anglia belts that were sought after ! |
I do not but I guess it's heat-related. And a valve.
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Originally Posted by chevvron
(Post 10029003)
From what TDM tells me, it's valves they're short of; but then none of you lot probably knows what a thermionic valve is.
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Originally Posted by Nobodys Desk
(Post 10028577)
The PSR at Prestwick is an EN4000, as NorthSouth correctly pointed out, a hybrid Watchman but it is being replaced by a Terma Scanter 4002. This has been on site for over a year but hasn't been flight trialed yet.
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Originally Posted by PDR1
(Post 10028179)
Are you certain about that? From what I remember the Marshall budget wasn't anywhere near enough to replace all the primary radars along with all the other stuff that it had to cover.
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Originally Posted by Mooncrest
(Post 10028248)
The windfarm at Ovenden Moor is the largest and most obvious (I can see it from my home in Yeadon). I don't know its elevation but it can't be far off LBA's elevation of 682ft, if not higher.
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Originally Posted by NorthSouth
(Post 10029099)
Ovenden is visible on the LBA Watchman and is not mitigated.
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Originally Posted by Mooncrest
(Post 10029010)
I do not but I guess it's heat-related. And a valve.
Y'know those documentaries about the Bombes used to make Enigma decoding work? Did you see those funny shaped glass things like lightbulbs inside the Bombes? They are valves. |
A fascinating discussion indeed, I wonder how much 'Radar Theory' is included in modern APS/ACS courses?
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@ ZOOKER
Who can forget John Townsend's erudite explanations of tangential fade & associated equations ? ;-) |
Originally Posted by Eric T Cartman
(Post 10029336)
@ ZOOKER
Who can forget John Townsend's erudite explanations of tangential fade & associated equations ? ;-) JT got a lot of radar theory across to a lot of students who wouldn't otherwise have got it! Most memorable and entertaining! I owe JT... |
I think many of us do TDM. Always enjoyed his lectures, and using a primary-only fluoride radar was one of the most satisfying aspects of the job.
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Is a fluoride radar a green monochrome display, as opposed to an orange one ? They once had those at Blackpool, Stansted and Birmingham (Ferranti ?), as I recall, probably fed by any number of primary radar heads.
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Originally Posted by Mooncrest
(Post 10029443)
Is a fluoride radar a green monochrome display, as opposed to an orange one ?
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