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Maarafi 7th Mar 2017 18:22

Air traffic control in Italy
 
Hi there,
Thanks for accepting me into this forum.
I had some questions regarding Air traffic control in italy that nobody could answer sadly. So I joined this forum hoping for somebody. Being an air traffic controller is my dream but sadly I don't know the requirements for it. I read somewhere that you need english ICAO level 4,a high school degree and something else I don't remember yet. Is that true? I currently study electronic/electricist(that's far away from my dream) so in case I couldn't apply for it,at least I have a second hand job. What do you need to be an air traffic controller?
Thanks for reading! :ok:

500 above 8th Mar 2017 09:05

Just learn this phrase "descend now" and you will be OK. The Italian's are the worst culprits for giving ridiculously early descents.

CPDLC_EDYY 8th Mar 2017 12:58

In most cases there isn't a clear set of pre-requisits. But indeed an acceptable level of English is definitely something you want to have. But don't worry. There is no need to have University level to be able to perform Shakespeare plays.
But best to check with the ANSP where you want to apply ENAV
You also have the possibility to try with Eurocontrol if you don't mind moving abroad; ATCO Eurocontrol

Good luck!

mebur_verce 8th Mar 2017 15:15


Originally Posted by 500 above (Post 9699386)
Just learn this phrase "descend now" and you will be OK. The Italian's are the worst culprits for giving ridiculously early descents.

Any specific example would be highly appreciated.

This is not to say we always stick to the 'top of descent' profile' (by all means, more often than not we don't), I'm just trying to understand how our job is perceived at the other end of the microphone, and possibly try to explain why it happens.

Ivor_Novello 8th Mar 2017 19:08

Italy... ENAV.... te serve na raccomandazione prima di tutto!!! ;) ;) ;)

Maarafi 8th Mar 2017 19:10


Originally Posted by Ivor_Novello (Post 9699911)
Italy... ENAV.... te serve na raccomandazione prima di tutto!!! ;) ;) ;)

Raccomandazione in che senso?

Maarafi 8th Mar 2017 19:13


Originally Posted by CPDLC_EDYY (Post 9699619)
In most cases there isn't a clear set of pre-requisits. But indeed an acceptable level of English is definitely something you want to have. But don't worry. There is no need to have University level to be able to perform Shakespeare plays.
But best to check with the ANSP where you want to apply ENAV
You also have the possibility to try with Eurocontrol if you don't mind moving abroad; ATCO Eurocontrol

Good luck!

Thank you very much for your kind answer. I checked Eurocontrol and looks great so far.
Btw ANSP means?

blissbak 8th Mar 2017 22:12

@500A

you are terribly wrong, I'm used to say "Please, descend now, thank you" .

@Maarafi
It's highly unlikely that we'll see new recruitments in the very next years,
the ICAO english level certificate is not part of the requirements but your skills will be evaluated and would be nice to show very good knowledges.

Do your best to make your dream come true, never forget to have a B-plane, and enjoy your second hand-job :}

confused atco 9th Mar 2017 07:18


Btw ANSP means?
Air
Navigation
Service
Provider


The Employer in other words.

confused atco 9th Mar 2017 07:23


the ICAO english level certificate is not part of the requirements
From the nice people in EASA

Air traffic controllers and student air traffic controllers shall not exercise the privileges of their licences unless they have a valid language proficiency endorsement in English and, if applicable, in the language(s) imposed by the Member State for reasons of safety at the ATC unit as published
in the Aeronautical Information Publications. The language proficiency endorsement shall indicate the language(s), the level(s) of proficiency and the expiry date(s).

Reveal1 9th Mar 2017 10:29

check NATS...they are looking right now.
http://www.nats.aero/career

blissbak 9th Mar 2017 11:24

@Confused ATCO
Our friend is curious on how to get the job, not the way to exercise a license he doesn't have and for wich you, without any doubt, need the language proficiency endorsement.

ICAO level 4 is normally done as part of the training.

Maarafi 9th Mar 2017 12:23

Thank you! Anyway I usually play on those flight simulators games. I'm also a member of "VATSIM" a virtual network and mostly logged in as a controller. Is that a nice start? What do you think?

ASD 10th Mar 2017 10:43


Do your best to make your dream come true, never forget to have a B-plane, and enjoy your second hand-job
LOL, too funny

Marlonne 19th Apr 2017 20:23

Hey guys, I'm new here, I am seeking an ANSP for ATC Training and I am looking around Europe, I wanted to apply to ENAV but unfortunately there isn't information on how to do so.

If someone could guide me as to where I could apply and send in my documents and advise me more on ENAV it would be great and very much appreciated.

Thank You.

deci 20th Apr 2017 14:37

ENAV is not recruiting at this time, anyway I'm afraid italian citizenship would be still requested.

ciao.

Marlonne 26th Apr 2017 07:46


Originally Posted by deci (Post 9746833)
ENAV is not recruiting at this time, anyway I'm afraid italian citizenship would be still requested.

ciao.

Deci, thank you for your reply.

I thought they would recruit European citizens like most other ANSPs around Europe, but thank you.


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