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olivermitch99 10th Apr 2016 21:58

Wind Direction Conundrum...
 
Hi all!
I feel a little silly for asking this however:
If the wind is 270/13, is the wind blowing towards heading 270 at 13 knots or blowing from heading 270 at 13 knots (therefore blowing to heading 090)

Silly question, I know :D

Cheers, Oliver :ok:

AyrTC 10th Apr 2016 22:03

Blowing from 270

Loki 12th Apr 2016 16:31

It's not a silly question if you don't know.

ZOOKER 12th Apr 2016 22:45

Blowing from 270 olivermitch, as AyrTC says.
A 'westerly' wind, or airflow, comes FROM the west.
Have fun, meteorology is fascinating.

DaveReidUK 13th Apr 2016 08:04


Originally Posted by Loki (Post 9341863)
It's not a silly question if you don't know.

Exactly. It's just a convention that's used, after all, and if it's one you're not familiar with then it's a perfectly reasonable question to ask.

A good way to remember how it works is that if you're landing on Runway 27, then a wind reported as 270 is exactly where you want it to be. :O

ZOOKER 13th Apr 2016 09:31

olivermitch,
also, when an airport is on 'westerly operations', the a/c take off and land TO the west. Eg at Heathrow, they'll be using 27L and 27R, as Dave says above, operating towards the westerly wind.

LEGAL TENDER 13th Apr 2016 18:20

so would that mean that when they are on "easterly operations" they take off and land with the pointy bit towards East?

What if the wind is neither westerly or easterly? :E:E:E

HEATHROW DIRECTOR 13th Apr 2016 18:40

Well, it might be north-south-easterlies... or west-north-southerlies.

DaveReidUK 13th Apr 2016 19:51


Originally Posted by LEGAL TENDER (Post 9343162)
so would that mean that when they are on "easterly operations" they take off and land with the pointy bit towards East?

Yes.


What if the wind is neither westerly or easterly?
Any wind direction can be resolved into a headwind/tailwind component and a crosswind component.

It's the former that determines whether Heathrow operates on easterlies or westerlies, subject to a set of rules that define the preferential direction depending on the time of day/night:

http://www.heathrow.com/file_source/...Arrivals11.pdf

ZOOKER 13th Apr 2016 20:10

LEGAL TENDER,
Correct.........Unless you're at Leeds or Birmingham.........Then it's all very different. :E

2 sheds 15th Apr 2016 07:13

There seems to be an equivalent of Godwin's Law on Pprune - it's only a matter of time before bl**dy Heathrow gets mentioned!

2 s

ZOOKER 15th Apr 2016 09:49

Sorry sheds, I hadn't noticed the OP's 'location indicator'.
It's the same at 'John Lennon', olivermitch, which has the same runway directions as Heathrow.......Give or take a degree or two.

DaveReidUK 15th Apr 2016 10:17


Originally Posted by ZOOKER (Post 9344892)
It's the same at 'John Lennon', olivermitch, which has the same runway directions as Heathrow.......Give or take a degree or two.

Not to mention Bristol, Guernsey, Jersey, EMA, Norwich ...


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