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aluminium persuader 2nd Oct 2014 11:05

Well, it makes up for losing LGW & Brum!
 
NATS win Wattisham

Here

:ok:

360BakTrak 2nd Oct 2014 11:13

If I was at the college now I'd be afraid.......VERY afraid!!!!:eek::}

aluminium persuader 2nd Oct 2014 12:09

Lol! I'm sure it's not that bad!

rodan 2nd Oct 2014 13:17

Perhaps they should be. I'd be surprised if this was a normal NSL contract with the associated terms and conditions...

Talkdownman 2nd Oct 2014 14:16

EGUW ACP next?

TCAS FAN 2nd Oct 2014 14:33

Are they going to keep the Aberporth Ranges contract, a rival bidder is indicating a decision around 1 October, any news?

GAPSTER 2nd Oct 2014 15:04

Not sure anyone at the college (if there is anyone there these days!) has much to fear....don't think we'll be providing ATCOs

Gonzo 2nd Oct 2014 15:55

Not sure we've lost Gatwick just yet. Still playing in extra time I think.

zonoma 2nd Oct 2014 20:34


working side by side with civilian controllers at NATS’ two control centres – in Swanwick, Hampshire and Prestwick, Ayrshire
errr........????

WhirlyWopter 7th Oct 2014 19:33

Interesting - wonder if it's something of a cost saving exercise for the military to start relying more on Civil controllers... I don't know the history of Aberporth so well but this is certainly a deliberate change from the norm!

aluminium persuader 10th Oct 2014 16:13

Wattisham (since the AAC moved in), Middle Wallop and Netheravon have long, if not always, been contracted to civil controllers, but the Army has never had an ATC branch. St Athan is also civil now, but it's a maintenance base only. I wouldn't have thought the RAF or RN would outsource ATC, but you never know...

spekesoftly 10th Oct 2014 17:15


I wouldn't have thought the RAF or RN would outsource ATC, but you never know...
RAF Woodvale and RAF Barkston Heath have had civil ATCOs for many years.

rodan 10th Oct 2014 17:56

RAF Wyton as well.

Mantovani 26th Oct 2014 13:46

Have NATS really lost Birmingham?

zonoma 27th Oct 2014 22:27

Yes. (Brackets just because PPRuNe won't take a message less than 10 characters long....)

chevvron 28th Oct 2014 00:04

Mentioning Aberporth I should point out that NATS only operate the range control for Cardigan Bay from there, they have no presence on the airfield which is AFISO and operated by West Wales Airport. Contract decision for the range control should have been made by 20 Oct with a start date of 1 Apr 2015 and training commencing as early as Feb 2015.
By the way, this is the second time NATS have bid for Wattisham, the first being when the AAC were about to move in back in the late '90s. It was a joint bid with Cobham who were to operate ground services. I was on the assessment centre for the post of Man ATS but didn't get selected (spent a pleasant couple of days at the Crowne Plaza Heathrow though) and in any case, NATS didn't get the contract that time.


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