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shortman 29th Aug 2014 12:29

Wanted - Pilots to attend Emergency Training for Air Traffic Controllers at Swanwick
 
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Wanted

Pilots to attend Emergency Training for Air Traffic Controllers at Swanwick


Controllers at the London Area Control Centre (Swanwick) undertake emergency training every year to maintain their licences. This training is split between TRUCE (Training for Unusual Circumstances and Emergencies) and STAC (Scenario Training for Aircrew and Controllers).

TRUCE sessions take place in the afternoon. For Swanwick controllers there will be both classroom discussions and time in the simulator which is located at our corporate headquarters in Whiteley, Hampshire.
Prior to the afternoon session, pilots are encouraged to visit the Operation Rooms at Swanwick (generally from 1100).

Over past years we have hosted many commercial pilots and the vast majority have commented how useful their attendance has been. For our ATCOs, they get to hear how commercial pilots deal with emergency situations first hand, and pilots can gain a better understanding of what we do should they call PAN or MAYDAY. Expect to take part within the classroom discussions and the simulator exercises (you can even play the part of the emergency pilot during an exercise!).

STAC is a facilitated classroom session at Swanwick (0900 to 1600) run by an ATCO facilitator and pilot CRMI. A mixed group of pilots and controllers discuss how emergencies effect operations on the flight deck and control room and how a better understanding of each others requirements can lead to better handling of these events.
The day usually concludes with pilots visiting both Operation Rooms.


Sensible expenses can be claimed for those travelling from the London area or equivalent distance. Lunch will normally be provided.

I cannot over emphasise how useful your attendance will be for the participants!

If you think you might have a spare day, please E mail us at [email protected] so that we can send you more details. Please include an email address, brief details about you, who you fly for and what you fly. I can then arrange for more information to be sent out including the dates.

missy 29th Aug 2014 13:54

what a smashing idea, good luck

7of9 29th Aug 2014 14:04

Is this open for GA pilots as well?

What day of the week would it likely be on please?

Jwscud 29th Aug 2014 14:57

I have sent you an email with my details. I missed out on this last year and would love to get involved.

zonoma 29th Aug 2014 14:58

Trev, not sure if GA are allowed but it can be any day, depends on when the courses have been rostered. One even ran on Easter Sunday last year.

GAPSTER 29th Aug 2014 22:26

As a controller of 30 years standing I have found the presence of members of the pilot community at our TRUCE sessions to be by far the most valuable and instructive part of the day....especially given the very limited opportunities available these days to get jumpseat time.I hope we will continue to see our flight deck colleagues taking an active part.

babotika 29th Aug 2014 22:36

I have participated yearly since 2010 and can only recommend it. The sessions are extremely informative and, in my opinion, just as valuable as sim training as the emergencies which are discussed happen in the real world and have an effect that reaches far beyond the aeroplane.

If only we could bring controllers in to our sims...

Una Due Tfc 30th Aug 2014 00:44

I've been banging away at management for years that we should be allowed sit in a jump seat during pilot SIM sessions just to get an idea of how high their workload is in certain situations. I have to say over the years I have learned a phenomenal amount from sitting down and talking with the folks in the cockpit. I really do think it's a failure on the part of ANSPs and Airlines that commercial pilots and licensed atcos do not train together more often. He'll, we could even link our simulator s together online

The Many Tentacles 30th Aug 2014 05:42

I'm assuming Una doesn't work for NATS as we do get the option to go along to the LOFT sessions that airlines run. I've done two myself, one with Easyjet and one with Thomas Cook.

Both have been very informative although I understand that these LOFT sessions generally run over two days and I've been lucky enough each time to see the days with the emergencies thrown in each time. The en-route controller who had been there the day before had spent a lot of time messing around with contaminated runways, which may not have been so useful for them. I appreciate it's a sim and obviously isn't quite like real life, but it was eye opening to see the amount of work that goes on in the cockpit.

I'd encourage anyone who has the option to do one of these days to take it up. If you are a NATS controller it can count towards one of your three extra days and goes towards your CPD total for the year.

To echo what others have said, pilot input during TRUCE is certainly some of the most useful training time we have - anything that fosters a greater understanding between pilots and controllers is a good thing.

zonoma 7th Sep 2014 22:28

Can I please bump this to the top of the list as we have sessions rostered with no pilots due to attend. It really does make a huge difference having "the other side" present. As all those pilots that have previously attended can concur, the benefit is huge to both sides, and if I happen to be in attendance, doughnuts may even be in abundance. :}

patm92 28th Sep 2014 23:54

Is the still happening, or am I too late?

Rossoneri 29th Sep 2014 07:58

Whilst I'm not involved in the organisation of TRUCE, it does run year-round, so I would suspect all are welcome to register interest at any time.

Flying Wild 29th Sep 2014 08:57

There are dates running into next year, every week, if my memory serves me correctly.

I've been before and would highly recommend a visit. Sadly am now located further north, so not so easy to get to Swanwick.

zonoma 1st Oct 2014 13:04

The season usually runs from September to April & as already said there tends to be dates most weeks. Ping an email to the address in the first post & please, come along :)

shortman 9th Oct 2014 12:07

Is TRUCE still running?
 
I can confirm that TRUCE at swanwick is still running through to at least Easter next year.Any pilots who are interested please drop us an e mail with your details to [email protected]

4Greens 9th Mar 2016 09:04

I have just attended a course as amongst other things a retired pilot. It is really good and well run. The interaction between pilots and controllers who don't normally meet is extremely useful. This particularly covers safety issues.

4Greens 17th Mar 2016 07:34

Have passed the word on to relevant members of the Royal Aeronautical Society.

Shaft109 22nd Mar 2016 17:19

TRUCE
 
Just a query - I have a CPL/ME/IR but nor currently employed as still 'training'.

Is it possible for someone like me to attend as an experience gathering exercise pre career?

Buster the Bear 5th Apr 2016 00:19

Shaft109, email them, you would learn a huge amount if they say yes? Explain where you are with your training and your ambitions. Ultimately, your understanding of ATC would certainly be enhanced by giving up an afternoon of your time.

Shaft109 3rd May 2016 17:40

Thanks Buster - I've visited a few Towers and Manchester before the new tower was built but will send a mail to ask.


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