Wot's up at Filton then?
Has Nooooooooonan nicked all the xmas sweeties? Darren and Wee McTavish drunk all the ale (again)?
I think we should be told.......... :p

mountaineous molehills
 

There are no problems at Filton that a new VCR couldn't put right :rolleyes: - one or two minor admin changes may soon take place, but nothing more than that.

Watch this space for possible news on a resurging Empire;)

Niknak, Darren doesn't drink ale.

Ale Drinking
 

Especially after the last medical :( Body mass index - what does that prove :p

Gypsy - of your 4 posts none of them have ever said anything interesting - would you care to enlarge with some facts or do you just scaremonger for the sake of it ;)

CM

Oh well - back to the marker pens and lighter fluid then.......:D

Well, allegedly they've tied up the atc contract at Manston, and a little bird with a big beak tells me they've had talks with MAN PLC about Humberside:confused:

Benchmarking.

Talk to a provider (s) to find out what they would charge to run that part of your business and then set your costs to match. Just ask the security staff as an example, at UK airports! Re-adjustment of salaries to meet market forces. Supply and demand.

Norwich
 

Will Serco get Norwich then? Airport about to be sold and the likely buyer doesn't do ATC. NATS too expensive methinks. Start the fight now.

SVFR

SVF - who knows!?
I understand that SERCO and NATS put in very competetive presentations when they were asked to do so last year, and the favoured bidder was NATS.
The alleged new owner also employs NATS at all their other UK airports, so it follows that they'd be serious contenders for Norwich - but not necessarily!;)

Well as far as I'm aware, Manston isn't tied up yet. I believe that they have "verbally indicated" that Serco's proposal is "generally acceptable".;)
They haven't yet agreed on everything, and more news is expected later this week. :)

As for Norwich, well if Niknak is right about the purchaser, then expect NATS to get that bid.:(

Norwich has been bought by TBI, we wait with baited breath.........

Serco have just bought out their equity partner in the privatised prison sector in the UK, making Serco one of Europes largest private operator of prison facilities.
Just a thought for anyone in NATS wanting a career change........ ;)

No thanks, I've only just resolved a dispute with them from last time I came under their employment regime :D

niknak paddywhack!
 

:O Ah niknak, thankyou for bringing this old chestnut back onto page 1.

What's going on at Norwich now that TBI are in. Just musing over their complaint about ATC costs at their other Airports (most specifically Luton) - does this mean that should it go out to tender again in the near future at Norwich, NATS' goose is cooked?:hmm:

Another little tit-bit for you. I believe EADS may have been in discussion with Serco about possible buy-outs and or mergers of certain mutual interests.:ok:

Should be enough to start another discussion, eh?;)

You gotta laugh, Serco's latest contract win is the Terminal Management at wait for it.....Newquay.:p It just can't get better than that can it:D

Whats so funny about that?

Gypsy Queen
 

Do you have a good laugh going to Sainsburys and see they are selling food? or that M&S sell clothes? I'll let you in on a little secret.......it's a BUSINESS!!!
Maybe you should go back to playing hide and seek in the school playground.

....and PS.....it's not crumbling.

serco crumbling empire
 

serco, a good company? nah - here's a good one. i joined bailbrook on a may monday at 9am as an atc instructor.

at 1pm i was told that "we're closing at the end of july and you're redundant"!!!!!

four hours - is that the shortest employment ever in atc?

In view of the other Serco post regarding provision of ATC at Southend and Biggin, I thought it only respectful to ressurect this post..........:p

So, Southend and Biggin - both owned by the same bunch of accountants aren't they? If that is the case it's always suprised me that they have contractors in to do the ATC for them.

Due respect to the individual ATC units and staff, but they can't be overly complicated to run, and both have a good number of very experienced bod's who could do the job in their sleep, consequently why don't the owners employ their own atco's?

Just a thought.

Well seeing as you've resurrected it ......

The ATC units in question may be relatively small but I would doubt that they are that easy to run if you're an accountant.

It often surprises me how little understanding people who haven't spent twenty odd years in front of a radar have of how ATC works.

Then again, I probably wouldn't be much cop as an accountant.

But taking my tongue out of my cheek, ATC is a complex system and you need professionals who know what they're doing to manage it. And believe it or not, I suspect Serco are better than many in this respect.

I would choose not to believe it!