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Hardbutt 27th Nov 2013 04:57

SSR
 
Forgive my ignorance but whats the difference between mode 'C' and mode 'S'? tks

LookingForAJob 27th Nov 2013 05:42

Here's a good starting point. You'll find answers to your nav questions on Skybrary too.

ATCast 27th Nov 2013 14:33

Traditional civil Secondary Surveillance Radars interrogate in Mode A and Mode C.
A Mode C capable radar transponder will encode the altitude in the reply to a radar Mode C interrogation; there resolution of the Mode C altitude is 100ft.
The Mode A reply contains the squawk code.

There are several problems with Mode A/C technology.
One of the problems is that all aircraft reply when they are interrogated. When several aircraft fly close to each other (for example in a holding stack), all their replies overlap, making it difficult for the radar to distinguish the replies. This is called garbling.

To address this and other problems, Mode S was introduced. 'S' standing for Selective.
Mode S radars can issue addressed interrogations; they can specifically ask a single transponder to reply. They do this by encoding the unique 24 bit address of the aircraft in the interrogation. The addressed aircraft will then reply to the question that was asked by the radar. In Elementary Mode S there are 4 basic questions that a radar can ask:

who is there? reply with unique 24 bit address
what altitude are you at? reply in 25ft resolution
what is your squawk code?
what is your identity? reply aircraft ID / call sign

In Enhanced Mode S adds a whole list of additional questions that can be asked, including airspeed, groundspeed, magnetic heading, track angle rate, selected altitude etc.

Mode S radars are a lot more sophisticated that the traditional Mode A/C radars and they also require more sophisticated transponders.
In order to be able to ask the right question at the right time to the right aircraft, the radar needs to keep track of who is flying where within their coverage area. But they are more accurate and allow for more detailed information being extracted from the aircraft.

Hardbutt 28th Nov 2013 12:28

ATCast. Thank you for your informative reply on this and the question on RNAV/RNP.
If I may ask, are the Mode S transponders used for the ADS-B transmitions also or are those seperate transponders entirely.
Thanks again. :ok:

DaveReidUK 28th Nov 2013 13:15


If I may ask, are the Mode S transponders used for the ADS-B transmitions also
Yes, they are.

ATCast 29th Nov 2013 07:48


are the Mode S transponders used for the ADS-B transmitions also or are those seperate transponders entirely
The short answer is yes, ADS-B is transmitted from the Mode S tranponder.

There are three radio technologies that are in use for ADS-B. The one that is most common is working on 1090MHz, the same frequency as SSR.
If an aircraft has a Mode S transponder, the ADS-B transmissions will be send from this transponder. The 1090MHz ADS-B has the same pulse format as the Mode S replies. It is this technology that is used all of the international ADS-B developments.

The two other ADS-B radio technoligies are UAT (Universal Access Transceiver, 978 MHz) and VHF Data Link Mode 4.

UAT is used in the USA for smaller aviation, up to an altitude of 18000ft. This ADS-B transceiver can be used together with a Mode A/C transponder, or ATCRB as they prefer to call it over there.

VDL Mode 4 never really took off; there are still a few aircraft that have it in Sweden and Russia perhaps.


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