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ask26 14th Nov 2012 01:41

Cleared for the ILS at LHR
 
About 2-3 months ago I understood that an update was issued on the use of phraseology at Heathrow from the separate commands of "Report Eastablished" and "Descend with the ILS" (or roughly equivalent phrases) to the one that is used more often across Europe of "Cleared for the ILS".

At the moment, turning base into LHR I occasionally hear "Once established, descend with the glidepath" but not the shorthand version. Is there a reason or reluctance to use it?

ATCO Two 14th Nov 2012 06:35

The approach charts for the EGLL ILS show a platform altitude of 2500ft, therefore unless an aircraft has been cleared to descend to 2500ft or below for the intercept, it cannot be "cleared for ILS approach," but it can be instructed to descend on the glidepath. Since intercept altitudes are typically 3000ft or 4000ft, the original phraseology is still appropriate.

obwan 14th Nov 2012 08:14

Funny how times change, "when I were a lad" we used to get reprimanded for saying "descend on the glidepath" instead of descend on the I.L.S." The rationale beingboth localiser and glide path were used.

Sir George Cayley 16th Nov 2012 19:39

In future will it be "descend with the teeney weeney signal in space"?

SGC

surfingatco 20th Nov 2012 10:39


In future will it be "descend with the teeney weeney signal in space"?
Or "Descend for 2 minutes on high" aka microwave!


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