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LXGB 2nd May 2012 18:04

VFR at Night in the UK from 08/06/2012
 
The CAA intends to implement VFR at night with effect from midday on 8 June 2012.

About time too! :D

Source: SN-2012/007: Introduction of Visual Flight Rules (VFR) at Night in the UK

niknak 2nd May 2012 18:25

Still quite rigerous requirements, not least the pilot qualifications and a/c requirements.
That said, I can see the obvious advantage to commercial operators, which is what this always has been about, quite rightly so.

Spitoon 2nd May 2012 18:36


That said, I can see the obvious advantage to commercial operators, which is what this always has been about, quite rightly so.
More like there won't be any option when Part-SERA is introduced so they might as well get on with it!

soaringhigh650 3rd May 2012 14:47


The CAA intends to implement VFR at night with effect from midday on 8 June 2012.
Wow. After 20+ years they're starting to think sensibly! ;)

ZOOKER 3rd May 2012 22:30

Yet, elsewhere on these fora, we find a discussion entitled :- "Avoiding Venus". :uhoh:

anotherthing 4th May 2012 11:29

Given the propensity for GA to infringe CAS during the day, this could be a worrying development. Fortunately there are some rigorous requirements, so that should reduce the risk.

It will be of great benefit to the many night time commercial operators which is good.

Hooligan Bill 4th May 2012 12:19

My God, they will be letting women join the golf club next.:rolleyes:

soaringhigh650 4th May 2012 12:37


Given the propensity for GA to infringe CAS during the day, this could be a worrying development.
Not really. Flying VFR OCAS at night vs. flying IFR OCAS at night has got nothing to do with infringements.

It is entirely down to a combination of poor fragmented FIS, poor airspace design (including different TAs), and poor pilot navigation.

GAPSTER 4th May 2012 15:23

Off he soars again

LXGB 31st May 2012 15:09

UPDATE: VFR at night is postponed until September
 
I thought things were moving a bit fast for the men at the ministry...

UPDATE: The implementation of the proposal described in this Safety Notice is now postponed until September. A further Safety Notice with more details will be issued shortly.

Source: SN-2012/007

Level bust 31st May 2012 15:16

Now there's a surprise, and there was me expecting to work out the rules when I return to work from leave!

Andy Mayes 1st Jun 2012 08:58

I see the update text above the link to the SN dated 1st May 2012 as highlighted by LXGB but has this important update been disseminated via any other means such as a re-issue of the SN or publication of an IN because I can't find anything.:confused:

LXGB 8th Jun 2012 15:40


I see the update text above the link to the SN dated 1st May 2012 as highlighted by LXGB but has this important update been disseminated via any other means such as a re-issue of the SN or publication of an IN because I can't find anything.
New SN now issued...

SN-2012/010: Delay to the Introduction of Visual Flight Rules (VFR) at Night in the UK


2 Revised Date of Introduction of VFR at Night
2.1 In order to allow the changes to be considered in full and to allow stakeholders sufficient time to implement the changes the CAA has elected to delay the implementation of this change to after the completion of the Olympic and Paralympic Games.
2.2 VFR at night will now be introduced on 17 September 2012 coincident with the introduction of Part-FCL in the UK. Until this date aircraft are required to comply with the Instrument Flight Rules when flying at night in accordance with Rule 20 of the Rules of the Air Regulations 2007.
2.3 A further Safety Notice will be published shortly which will give full details of the conditions and implementation arrangements.

Helen49 10th Jun 2012 18:08

The safety regulator giving a clear demonstration of how not to manage change.

Better consultation with all the stakeholders prior to announcing an implementation date would have been a good idea?

H49

LXGB 15th Jun 2012 18:57

Take 2...

SN-2012/012
Revised Introduction of Visual Flight Rules (VFR) at Night in the UK
The purpose of this Safety Notice is to give details of the postponed introduction of VFR at night. It also contains the responses to the comments received in response to SN-2012/007.

LXGB 13th Sep 2012 09:28

Take 3!

IN-2012/145: Introduction of Visual Flight Rules (VFR) at Night in the UK


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