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TRACKBALL 25th Apr 2012 10:20

GCAA appeals for Emirati trainee controllers | Air Traffic Management | Air Traffic Management - ATM and CMS Industry online, the latest air traffic control industry, CAA, ANSP, SESAR and NEXTGEN news, events, supplier directory and magazine

Vercingetorix 26th Apr 2012 08:37

TRACKBALL


GCAA appeals for Emirati trainee controllers | Air Traffic Management | Air Traffic Management - ATM and CMS Industry online, the latest air traffic control industry, CAA, ANSP, SESAR and NEXTGEN news, events, supplier directory and magazine
Interesting read. The problem is that the both the catchment area (Emiratis) and recruitment pool (suitably qualified Emiratis) are quite limited. i.e. How do you entice a 20+ yr old Emirati into a job that offers anti social, non family hours and that also requires a fair amount of hard work especially when the average intake to the student pool has approximately 3,000,000 Dhs in his current account! Plenty of Omanis willing to take the plunge but they are not Emiratis. I seriously doubt that the GCAA will ever be able to recruit enough Emiratis to ever completely staff the ACC, especially when one considers the generous retirement packages available to locals.
The GCAA in its ANS/ATM Dept is a better place now since the demise of the "Gruesome Twosome" but the HR Dept is not a help to meaningful recruitment.

Regards to AAJ aka Executive Director.

Cheers:ok:

To infinity and beyond and, hopefully, back in time for tea.

Tower Ranger 27th Apr 2012 00:09

However, back in the real world, applications for the Emiratee promotions far outstrip the number of positions available.

Verci at some point you are going to have to accept that you`ve been away from this part of the world for just a little too long.
Did you ever work at DXB?

Vercingetorix 27th Apr 2012 01:37

Tower Ranger
As per the article I was referring to GCAA recruiting not Dubai.
I would posit the theory that both GCAA and Dubai exist in an alternate Universe.

To infinity and beyond and, hopefully, back in time for tea (ref Albert Einstein) in the real world.

Cheers, me 'ole china:ok:

LoserGill 28th Apr 2012 18:51

You'd think that with all the negative aspects mentioned there would be vacancies by the camel load but alas, nothing to that effect.
I guess money soothes.

mhk77 29th Apr 2012 15:58


You'd think that with all the negative aspects mentioned there would be vacancies by the camel load but alas, nothing to that effect.
I guess money soothes.
Or maybe the money isn't as much as 'outsiders' think to enable people to just quit without another job to go to..................?

Over and over 30th Apr 2012 14:36

I'm interested to know what the (general) feeling on the new facility at Jebel Ali?

Short Approach? 5th May 2012 12:12


I'm interested to know what the (general) feeling on the new facility at Jebel Ali?
I think it great! And generally the feeling I get from everyone is appreciation for the easy access, decent rest-facilities, plenty of space, canteen and so on.

Now we just need to transition on to our new equipment, and get three RANBI-gates. Good times indeed.

Plazbot 5th May 2012 12:44

I hear the unofficial official line is late July, 2 Ranbi gates as well as independant DB and SJ gates inbound. Certainly a great move for all concerned.

BlueSkye 7th May 2012 12:02


I hear the unofficial official line is late July, 2 Ranbi gates as well as independant DB and SJ gates inbound. Certainly a great move for all concerned.
Assuming Bahrain approves the three RANBI airways.

Quoted the wrong person, meant to quote Short Approach on the 3 airways. Two might be possible but without Bahrain's approval you will never have 3.

LazyLLz 7th May 2012 13:22


Assuming Bahrain approves the three RANBI airways.
Not if UAE can't agree to use "ZINGU"

BlueSkye 7th May 2012 17:06

SINGU is a different subject altogether. Three seperate RNAV1 airways coming out of DB would necessitate three RNAV1 airways into Bahrain. No point in having three outbound routes that congregate at one point again. Add the overflyers and Abu Dhabi and the whole thing becomes a mess. Whether the bottleneck is caused by Bahrain or UAE is a moot point. There is a bottleneck, period.

If DB can get three outbound routes then surely AA can get two as well. There simply isn't enough real estate to accomodate all these routes. Activate OMD22 and that's the end of that fairy tale.

rowdyyates 10th May 2012 12:23

Ahhh SERCO
 
Well as an ATCO I`ve worked for some pretty poor outfits, but SERCO takes the buscuit.

Tin-Bullet 10th May 2012 12:55

@Short Approach?


Quote:[[[I'm interested to know what the (general) feeling on the new facility at Jebel Ali?]]]

I think it great! And generally the feeling I get from everyone is appreciation for the easy access, decent rest-facilities, plenty of space, canteen and so on.

Now we just need to transition on to our new equipment, and get three RANBI-gates. Good times indeed.
U been eating too much bread with Danish blue cheese before your _ _ _ _ .....?????

Vercingetorix 19th May 2012 12:29

Tower Ranger

Did you ever work at DXB?
Last time I was Dubai was as Chairman of an examination board concerning locals doing their first aerodrome ATC Rating.

Check my cv, should you wish!

Cheers

To infinitiy and beyond and, hopefully, back in time for a pint.

Cheers:ok:

ferris 19th May 2012 16:17

Still unable to give a straight answer, attempting to deceive by telling half -truths.

Same old Verci.

I once traveled thru Dubai airport, and I was working at the time, so does that mean I worked Dubai approach as an air traffic controller? :rolleyes:

Plazbot 19th May 2012 22:43

Who gives a toss. Dubai has doubled movements since either of you worked here. Unfortunately for ferris he still catches the **** we throw with less resources.

Speaking of pints, I miss the days on course on the gas Costanza. ;)

DirtyPierre 20th May 2012 05:20

Hey Plaz. check your PMs.

DP

TRACKBALL 21st Aug 2012 08:15

How many controllers work at the ACC?

Are they all expats?

Plazbot 21st Aug 2012 10:56

About 100. Two thirds Expat.


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