EFD for LTC/Prestwick
Hi
Can anyone tell me when EFD is now scheduled to be introduced at LTC and Prestwick (if it hasn't been already?). Thanks |
Here we go!......................................................... ............................................................ ............................................................ ............................:E
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OK, I'll bite, but not being on the project team, this is just my guesstimate.
Some time between September and November 2012. |
Last I heard they were trying to get it in for Summer 2012. At Prestwick anyway.
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Hopefully never. Sadly management won't listen to the majority of shop-floor controllers and are still determined to get EFD implemented eventually.
I've not found the EFD to be user friendly, and much harder to use for live traffic than paper strips. |
jackieofalltrades last post is interesting, surely the controller's 'union' should take this up at their forthcoming conference.
Wait a minute, what's this.........? 'Whilst we appreciate that EFD is not seen by the membership as a forward step, it is here to stay". Fighting talk indeed! |
GM LTCC told us several months ago EFD would not be coming to TC in it's present form. Being cynical that could mean we'll just paint the box a different colour, or just perhaps he meant it, as everyone knows it's not fit for purpose. Only time will tell.
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It now has a slightly different form than several months ago.
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Originally Posted by Not Long Now
(Post 6793281)
GM LTCC told us several months ago EFD would not be coming to TC in it's present form.
Since the TC1 project is planning to move LTC onto the new workstations, with electronic data, supposedly in 2014, I'm failing to see how there would be time to develop a new electronic system (never mind test and train it) given that EFD took 4 years and iFACTS took 13! But perhaps I'm just missing the whole 'Performance through Innovation' thing for 'NATS Airspace'. Smacks suspiciously to me like 'work smarter not harder' :E BD |
BD,
Will EFD2 sectors communicate electronically with other EFD2 sectors? If so will this be confined to the same LAG, the same unit or will it operate between EFD equipped units? Will EFD2 communicate electronically with iFACTS? Will it communicate electronically with iTEC? Or will there still be a requirement for FRED? Will EFD2, iTEC and iFACTS all communicate electronically with EFPS? Or will FRED still be required as a backup, (sorry, 'fallback')? :E |
Perhaps if we're all to have a common workstation and data input/display/processing, should we not start by adopting the same method of operation? Or is that putting the bleeding obvious before the large equine creature?
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Originally Posted by ZOOKER
(Post 6794922)
Will EFD2 sectors communicate electronically with other EFD2 sectors?
Originally Posted by ZOOKER
(Post 6794922)
If so will this be confined to the same LAG, the same unit or will it operate between EFD equipped units?
Originally Posted by ZOOKER
(Post 6794922)
Will EFD2 communicate electronically with iFACTS?
Originally Posted by ZOOKER
(Post 6794922)
Will it communicate electronically with iTEC? Or will there still be a requirement for FRED?
Originally Posted by ZOOKER
(Post 6794922)
Will EFD2, iTEC and iFACTS all communicate electronically with EFPS? Or will FRED still be required as a backup, (sorry, 'fallback')?
BD |
Originally Posted by Not Long Now
(Post 6794966)
Perhaps if we're all to have a common workstation and data input/display/processing, should we not start by adopting the same method of operation?
As Martin Luther King said "I have a dream!" but just like NATS he didn't have a plan :} BD |
"if you mean electronic coordination the answer is yes".
So EFD2 is designed to eliminate the role of the 'Planner' ATCO as well as the sector assistant? Interesting........:E |
Originally Posted by ZOOKER
(Post 6795433)
So EFD2 is designed to eliminate the role of the 'Planner' ATCO as well as the sector assistant?
It was a specific request of the ATCO EFD improvements working group that EFD include forward coordination and it won't eliminate Planners but it does reduce phone calls. BD |
BD - I'm quite sure EFD 1 + 2 does not communicate with NAS. Listens, maybe, but does not talk back (A management dream!!!!) :}
Or am I wrong? |
Originally Posted by landedoutagain
(Post 6796010)
BD - I'm quite sure EFD 1 + 2 does not communicate with NAS. Listens, maybe, but does not talk back (A management dream!!!!) :}
Or am I wrong? BD |
And sometimes it doen't even listen.
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