TG 916 Yesterday
Last night I was on the above, we were nicely established on finals, and we did a go-around. The Captain gave a brief explanation that I didn't understand.
Can anyone tell me the reason ? Just out of interest, nothing else. I know this is nothing whatsoever unusual, like I say, just out of interest. Ta |
I assume you were pax, not the FO then.....??
What did the flight deck say then? maybe someone can decipher it. |
If you didn't hang around long after the go-around there was likely nothing wrong with the aeroplane..... probably the one ahead slow to clear the runway, which is often the reason.
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The briefer the explanation, the more likely the problem was up front ;) Easiest to blame ATC whatever, but occasionally we get found out using that line :oh:
NoD |
Told to maintain 160 to 4 but kept speed at close to 200, rapidly catching preceding traffic . Told to go around , continued decent until asked if going around as instructed, where upon go around initiated.
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"Ladies and gentlemen, this is the Captain. We're going around because I've made a right cock-up....."
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"Ladies and gentlemen, this is the Captain. We're going around because I've made a right cock-up....." The person who has never made a mistake never makes anything and there can be many factors which can conspire to occasionally cause a Go Around. In the company I work for there is a "no blame" policy for Go Arounds which is the way it should be. |
Thanks autothrottle. Very informative. Interesting that the ground speed indicated on the cabin display was bang on 160. Firefly, agree 100% with the no-blame culture.
Ta |
You say cabin info said 160kts but autothrottle said he was doing 200.....
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GROUNDSPEED of 160kts. The London airports yesterday afternoon were enjoying 3000ft winds of about 40-50 knots down the runway. Therefore the aircraft in front of you would most likely of been flying a groundspeed of 120kts!
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correct Rice
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Groundspeed ?
Are Approach speeds such as 160 to 4 not based on IAS anymore ? |
Yes they are, 160kts IAS to 4 dme (see other recent thread). However the original poster said the info screen on the plane showed the aircraft flying a ground speed of 160 kts. Autothrottle mentioned the reason for the go-around was because the aircraft was still flying around 200kts IAS (with 40 knot headwind = 160 kts ground speed) with the preceding aircraft probably adhering to the 160kts IAS instruction (approx 120kts ground speed).
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autothrottle, a question if I may? In this situation is the standard go around instruction still issued? (Go around, I say again go around, acknowledge) or is more of a "this isn't going to work, would you mind going around?"
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<<would you mind going around>>
Hahahahaha!! ATC give instructions.. |
HEATHROW DIRECTOR <<would you mind going around>> Hahahahaha!! ATC give instructions.. |
"this isn't going to work, would you mind going around?" |
Or as an ex-Heathrow colleague said: "I'm terribly sorry but GO-AROUND".
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Which got the reply "thank you, I could see we were catching him" (number 1 had slowed to walking pace)
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Originally Posted by Spitoon
If you do choose this approach I believe the correct phraseology is, in fact, "this isn't going to work, I say, would you mind awfully, going around?"
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