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BBFive

26th Oct 2010 00:37

use of the phrase "heavy" in call sign/ICAO

Understand it is not used in ICAO ops however does anyone have a reference source??
Need to show physical proof
Thanks
BBFive

Nightrider

26th Oct 2010 07:16

Don't know your legislation but, for FAA it is: Appendix A of the FAAO 7110.65R "Air Traffic Control";
in the UK it is CAP413 chapter 1.8.5;
they all refer to ICAO DOC 4444......

Spitoon

26th Oct 2010 08:27

ICAO Doc 4444...

4.9.2 Indication of heavy wake turbulence categor
For aircraft in the heavy wake turbulence category the word “Heavy” shall be included immediately after the aircraft call sign in the initial radiotelephony contact between such aircraft and ATS units.

whitelighter

26th Oct 2010 11:43

And A380 should be announced as 'Super'

HEATHROW DIRECTOR

26th Oct 2010 12:41

<<And A380 should be announced as 'Super'>>

Interesting. When was that introduced please?

Casper87

26th Oct 2010 13:24

IIRC 2nd July 2009, Amendment 4, MATS Part 1.

The phraseology was changed from 'Vortex Wake/Wake Vortex' to 'Wake Turbulence' and the recomended distances were reduced for arrival spacing.

Oh and 'spacing' was changed to 'distance'

Casper

HEATHROW DIRECTOR

26th Oct 2010 13:44

OK... many thanks.

BBFive

26th Oct 2010 23:40

Great job guys
thanks
bbfive

duyentranvan

27th Oct 2010 08:30

its also in jeppesen volume 1 gen

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