ATC Watcher,
Why would they start bother with rules now ?

As for the 100 military controllers, provided they reach level 4 in English, how will they reach the minimum yearly hours to keep their civil licence valid ?
However, I don't doubt they will be trained enough for unusual situations...



Calcagafo,
There was no need for that !
After this one-year-long press campaign I think everyone around the world knows the way Spanish Controllers are treated, disregarding a lot of CRM, HF, Safety recommandations...
Yet, I'm not sure everyone understands what this means...

If I was them I would, for 2 reasons :
First ecause these are community rules superseeding local laws, and secondly Spain (AENA, Indra etc..) until now wanted to play a leading role in SES/SESAR. If they continue like this they will de facto expell themselves from it.

They can break any labour agreement they want in their Country but going against EU regulations is another mater.

It would appear to be debatable whether Spain has had a NSA doing its job for some time - which is also going against European Regulations.

Who said the Italians will be employed to instruct on live traffic? As the trainee controllers are ex-tower staff, presumably they will need a period of classroom and simulator work on area techniques before progressing to live OJT. There should be few problems using the Italian staff to act as classroom instructors. Validated Spanish controllers can then take over for live OJT.

Same old story....
 

Does it ring any bells?

¿Tienen motivos los bomberos de Madrid para ir a la huelga? | Madrid | elmundo.es

For those who don't speak spanish:

They earn too much, they work too little..... They are....
YES , THE FIREMEN

This country deffinitely stinks.....

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presumably, also the Italian ATCOs will need some instruction on the subjects they will instruct (maybe they are taught spanish airspace and procedures in Italy, but something tells me they are not...).

So, if (according to president Lema), AENA doesn´t need any more ATCOs, why do the same job twice for double the money?:confused:

quoting ATC Watcher: "Something fishy here".

regards

calcagafo...

Lon More

As far as I know Madrid City Council is run by the PP so that pretty much answers the implied suggestion that things may be different after the elections in 2012.

As always, it really doesn't matter who you vote for, at the end of the day all you get is another politician...

pp