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ilphukiir 14th Aug 2009 10:02

Landing clearance and MDA
 
Recently shoot a non-precision approach and when approaching MDA Tower controller asked to continue approach due to preceding T.O aircraft still on runway, would like to know what' s the clearance limit when clear for approach and without landing clearance? Thanks a lot.:)

Kempus 14th Aug 2009 11:21

Depends on the company landing gate if you have one and experience. Remember you cant go below MDA if not visual but if you are there is nothing stopping you continuing the approach to mapt if it is lower or at a set distance. Sometimes landing clearence wont be given until you are visual with the runway.

If the clearence is land after its then the pilots call to what happens next and you can initiate a missed approach up to the point when you select reverse thrust if you have it so that can means the wheels are on the ground. At a lot of major airports landing clearence can be given at 100ft to keep the flow of traffic going but they will tell you to expect a late landing clearence. If they dont remind them with a quick call giving distance or alt and if no reply go around.

fireflybob 14th Aug 2009 12:15

Surely two separate issues?

You need visual reference to continue the approach below MDA (as ever!).

You need landing clearance before the wheels touch the tarmac!

DFC 14th Aug 2009 21:35

Correct fireflybob.

However, performance issues may result in a missed approach below the DA or MDA(MAPT) not being able to follow the published missed approach procedure should an engine fail - something that must be allowed for at all times in a perf A operation.

So even if cleared to land, a missed approach after the DA / MDA(MAPT) is worth having a think about in advance.

BOAC 14th Aug 2009 22:04

Absolutely, DFC - I used to always brief the two g/a's on 16 at Salzburg for that very reason, much to the puzzlement of some of the less-then-enlightened management..

fireflybob 15th Aug 2009 14:24

DFC/BOAC thanks - good points

ilphukiir 18th Aug 2009 03:25

Thanks a lot!:ok:


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