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Cash Machine 4th Mar 2009 13:26

wroclaw airport
 
i am looking for a controller or ,at least a web blog of a controller , who works in there ???:ok::ok::ok::ok::ok:

zasieki1 4th Mar 2009 21:50

Hi, check PM.

Cash Machine 5th Mar 2009 01:25

hi !
 
how can you handle 30000 traffic per year without radar ?:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

zasieki1 5th Mar 2009 19:01

Oh, I`ve just noticed, they don`t have ATIS, handling frequency and not to mention of instrumental procedures for diverted direction of main runway...

Sky Conductor 5th Mar 2009 21:03

That is certainly impressive for an airport handling 60-70 IFR movements a day. So its just one guy doing Ground,Tower,Approach,weather,Handling on one frequency? with an assisant. 30000 mvts for one guy is no big deal if alot is vfr.

zasieki1 6th Mar 2009 17:09

To be precise. In Wroclaw:

31739 operations in 2008. As far as I know, half of that are scheduled and holiday charter flights.

I think 70-80 % of all are IFR flights.

You have to add approx. 2000 extra operations for overflights, low passes, low approaches etc.

It still impress me a lot.

Sky Conductor 8th Mar 2009 08:41

Just looking at the Polish AIP.. it shows TAR/MSSR radar on the airfield chart and shows TWR with the CTR 2500ft with large TMA above but no mention of approach. Are you sure Approach is not done from a centre? Just curious!

zasieki1 8th Mar 2009 19:08

Data from Wroclaw`s radar is now using by common data system. This radar is going to provide data for Wroclaw Approach, which probably will be bring into being in Poznan in the near future.

TransmittingBlind 1st Apr 2009 08:44

"That is certainly impressive for an airport handling 60-70 IFR movements a day. So its just one guy doing Ground,Tower,Approach,weather,Handling on one frequency? with an assisant. 30000 mvts for one guy is no big deal if alot is vfr."

Ok, just to clarify the picture. Below are the 2008 statistics (including low passes and overflights)

24643 Scheduled, nonscheduled flights (100 % IFR)
3665 Military, SAR etc. (25 % IFR)
5562 Others (general aviation) (10% IFR)

The usual working position setup is one ATCO and one ATCO assistant. We do approach, tower, ground (yup no ATIS). There is no handling frequency at Wroclaw.

The radar depicted on the chart provides data for the whole system (ACC mainly), however we do not provide radar control in Wroclaw. Only procedure.

Separation is mainly vertical. We do not have SIDs or STAR procedures but have a couple of separated arrival and departure routes.

Traffic complexity can be a challange (military training,local training by aviation schools, zone activity within TMA). Due to airspace classification IFR traffic has to leave the TMA at FL 100 or above. This in return causes delays for arriving traffic (late descent or descending in the hold). The sequence also has to be coordinated with area control very early to minimize delays. Sometimes (during heavy traffic) delays are quite severe (even 40min).

Any pilots reading this: sorry, we do our best (almost always...)

And again no ATIS, so there is a lot of transmitting involved ;)

Any donations for a radar system are welcome :)

Regards,


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