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EBBU 12th Jan 2009 21:47

Belgian ATCO's work for free!
 
Today, the belgian ATCO's came up with a very creative kind of industrial action. Every controller worked for free for one hour! (one hour for the morning shift and one hour for the afternoon shift)

This action was taken to get some attention for the problems that have been going on for several years (up to 10 years already). The aim of this action was to get the political powers to notice what is going on and to acknowledge the concerns. Hopefully they will come to the table and talk about what is going on.

'Working for free' was the chosen action to underline that the concerns are NOT money related and to show that the ATCO's realise their responsibility in today's economical climate. There were no adverse effects for the airlines or passengers. Service was never interrupted.

Let's hope that today's action will be enough...

Chilli Monster 12th Jan 2009 21:54


There were no adverse effects for the airlines or passengers. Service was never interrupted.
................and nobody will have noticed what you've have done or that there is a problem. The tears of laughter must be rolling down your managements face.

You need to take lesons from the French ;)

EBBU 13th Jan 2009 06:07


................and nobody will have noticed what you've have done or that there is a problem. The tears of laughter must be rolling down your managements face.
At least we have tried everything to get a response from management without doing serious damage to the companies. Now nobody can say we behaved irresponsably.
Now the responsibity lies with management. If nothing moves then we might have to take a page out of the french handbook.... :)

Nightrider 13th Jan 2009 07:39

Good luck guys, your service is impeccable, so should be your treatment!

SINGAPURCANAC 13th Jan 2009 08:07

@Belgian colleagues,
Wrong snake at wrong head!
If you need attention those days. Industrial action should start five minutes before Gasprom delegation enters your airspace. :E
everyone will be aware!

throw a dyce 13th Jan 2009 10:26

EBBU,
It's so creative that it isn't industrial action.Industrial action is a measure to reduce productivity in the workplace.Working for nothing seems to be increasing productivity.:confused:
Management must be wanting you to take this action a lot more often.:rolleyes:

EBBU 13th Jan 2009 10:39

The aim of this action was to get noticed. The next few days will tell if it worked....
We are trying to be heard without causing damage to an already fragile industry by any means possible. I think that the airlines, pilots and passengers appreciate this kind of action more than let's say, closing down the Belgocontrol airspace.

But if push comes to shove and no dialogue is started we will have to do something else to get heard. And if that is a more conventional form of 'industrial action' then at least we have shown all the stakeholders that we tried to resolve the situation another way... (i.e. without hurting the aviation industry).
We won't apologise for trying everything possible to avoid a conventional strike.

max1 14th Jan 2009 08:16

Well done Belgian controllers, you are playing the 'long game' if this does escalate it is the type of quirky action the media love.
It will be referred to in every story. Belgian controllers worked for free to try to highlight their concerns and now they are doing X......
I hope you get a result.

deci 14th Jan 2009 09:35

Will Tv networks cover the story? I hope so..
(in Italy would be impossible...:bored:)

Good Luck to belgian collegues!:ok:

Someone_Else 14th Jan 2009 10:18

I'm sorry, I don't understand how this could make your company do anything. You've worked 1 hr longer without pay, how will this upset the bosses?

anotherthing 14th Jan 2009 11:10

If you read the post properly, the point wasn't to 'upset the bosses'.

What it has done is stolen the moral high ground from the bosses. Bosses will always talk about the greed of a relatively well paid workforce (e.g. ATCO's).

This action may well have taken the managements option of using the media to taint public opinion away from them.

At the end of the day, it could be a very clever move - and it's certainly proved to management that the ATCOs are united - can anyone in the UK see NATS ATCOs having the balls and unity to stand togeter like that?

Thought not.

BigDaddyBoxMeal 14th Jan 2009 12:10


At the end of the day, it could be a very clever move - and it's certainly proved to management that the ATCOs are united - can anyone in the UK see NATS ATCOs having the balls and unity to stand togeter like that?
Perhaps because NATS ATCOs talk a lot on pprune and a bit less in front of management ?

Big Daddy

Fly Through 14th Jan 2009 14:32

:D Well done to you for actually coming together to do something, it's something NATS ATCOs don't seem to be able to do. Hope you get the result you're hoping for.

Hmmmm wonder what it would take for NATS controllers to strike........

Lon More 14th Jan 2009 16:14

Well done EBBU and colleagues. Brilliant PR

Interesting that most of the nay-sayers seem to be from the South of the UK. The same group that bitches on public threads about banding, tumbling share prices and their protected pensions when they have a private thread for this (plenty of fuel there for the lurking journos)? Also the same group of "professionals" who did everything possible to break the ATCAs action a number of years ago?

anotherthing 14th Jan 2009 16:55

Lon More -

I think you will find that people who 'bitch' as you so eloquently put it, about Banding, are not from the south of england...

I, being someone who does work for NATS in the south of england, have stated that I think it is possibly a good move by the Belgians.

As for keeping things in NATS own forum, NATS is the biggest ATC employer in the UK and has the largest area unit in Europe. Many of the issues discussed on the public ATC forum are kept there because Ts &Cs at NATS are possibly of interest to other would be employees in the UK, and even possibly ATC staff who are looking to move to the UK.

The bitching can be embarrasing, but there are some good nuggets of info about life within NATS contained within the threads. Threads I might add that you have contributed to yourself numerous times!

BravoMike 14th Jan 2009 18:18

Hi,

Just to inform you about the result of the action...

Not only were we an item in the 6 and 7 oclock NEWS of the national TV, also an interview with a representative of the staff + a representative of the union on national radio. + several articles in national newspapers

We even have a meeting with the minister of transport end of this week!

So positive actions DO work !

Hopefully the rest will follow now, so we don't have to do any real industrial actions !

Greetings
M.B.

Lon More 14th Jan 2009 21:01

OK, so the banding bit was below the belt - but you have to give me the share options and pensions bit. :(

BM essentially keeping the actions in house where management is the only one hit is the way to go Good Luck

PeltonLevel 14th Jan 2009 21:53


Hmmmm wonder what it would take for NATS controllers to strike....
Hmmmm wonder what it would take to get NATS controllers to work extra hours for nothing....

anotherthing 15th Jan 2009 09:37

Lon More

No argument there about the bitching over pensions and the shares - I still think the pensions is pretty pertinent for people outside NATS to see though :ok:

PeltonLevel


Hmmmm wonder what it would take to get NATS controllers to work extra hours for nothing....
Or how about anyone in NATS workng for nothing? Not just ATCOs!!

flowman 15th Jan 2009 10:45

EBUU, what is it you are trying to resolve? I think this sort of positive action is a great idea, as you say, why punish the customers? But if your objective is to get noticed, why not tell us Ppruners what the problems are?
We have Greek strikes, French strikes and Italian strikes regularly, so regularly sometimes that they are just a procedure to be gone through for us and nobody seems to take any notice any more.
So good for you guys for trying something different, and good luck.:ok:


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