Hi is anybody going on exams to Maastricht this month? ;)

Yep, I will be there on Jan 19th and you?

Hello to all of you,

Regarding this Multipass test,

Do you know if it has something to do with the SDM Test ?

Is the Feast stage 2 still comprises of the DART or are there any additions ?

Looking forward to a prompt reply !

On 19th too! :)

Seems that private messages do not work here, drop me an email to [email protected] to get in touch :)

Anybody an idea when the next class will start?

19th January
 

I will be there too on 19th!:-) I'll send you an email

Any of you guys know if you fail the FEAST test with one ANSP can you apply to others?

For example, fail at NATS, can you try again with Ireland or Belgocontrol or Eurocontrol, DFS etc?

Does each ANSP only count the attempts at their selection process including FEAST?

I'm pretty sure you're not able to apply to another ANSP that uses the Eurocontrol tests, I'm afraid.

@THAC
Via post on page 54:

TRAINING
Ex1, Ex2, Ex3: as mentioned above, these three are training exercises. You're introduced to the rules and some characteristics of the test, which very briefly sounded like this:
-You'll be given four aircrafts, colored green, which are under your control;
-Apart from "your" aircrafts there will be some traffic that you can't control, as these planes will be colored grey. They will pass through the radar screen without changing their altitudes and headings;
-All aircrafts (controlled and uncontrolled ones) are moving with the same speed, so you can change only the heading and the flight level of the ones under your control;
-The information for the aircrafts' headings and altitudes are given with small numbers next to the green squares that represent each particular aircraft.
-The aim is to get all of your aircrafts through the checkpoints in the correct order, avoiding conflicts. Checkpoints are named CP1, CP2, CP3, CP4 and this is the order you should follow with any of your aircrafts;
-The six small vertically arranged circles on the left of the screen represent the exercise you're currently on;
-The buttons on the right side of the screen are named "LEFT", "RIGHT", "ALT" and "SUM". The LEFT/RIGHT buttons are used to change the heading of a particular aircraft (Clicking RIGHT and entering 315 will make the aircraft turn right to heading 315);
-The ALT button on the screen is used to change the altitude of a particular aircraft. You're only allowed to use three altitude levels 100, 200 and 300;
-You have a conflict when both of these conditions are present: two aircrafts are flying at the same altitude and are less than 2.5NM apart;
That's pretty much all with the exception of the SUM button (we will talk about it in Ex6).

TEST
Ex4: the first one of the evaluated exercises. The aim is to guide your four aircrafts through four checkpoints in the correct order. There is no uncontrolled traffic. Your priorities will be in this order of importance:
1)Avoid conflicts;
2)Use less commands;
3)Pass checkpoints accurately.
Ex5: absolutely the same as Ex4 with the same priorities, but this time you have uncontrolled traffic, which makes it more difficult because you have
to avoid conflicts with more aircrafts.
Ex6: includes Ex5, but there is an extra task. You have to put your headphones on. While guiding aircrafts through the checkpoints you'll have to listen to a long sequence of letters and numbers and calculate the sum of the last two numbers you hear. If the sequence goes like this "M K 5 J 3 6 N P Q 8", you'll firstly have to sum 5+3, then 3+6, after that 6+8. The sum has to be entered, using the SUM button on the right side of the screen.

...and last, but not least, some pieces of advice from me:
-When doing Ex5 and Ex6 make sure you keep a fair amount of distance between your aircrafts, because it gets pretty nasty when you are controlling two aircrafts at different altitudes close to each other and you have to dodge two uncontrolled ones, heading your way, again flying at different altitudes. Remember, you can only fly at three altitude levels (100, 200 or 300)!
-When doing Ex4, Ex5 and Ex6 keep in mind the turning radius of your aircrafts (which is one and the same for all of them).
-Keep in mind your priorities!!! The most important one is to AVOID CONFLICTS and, God forbid, collisions. The second is to use less heading and altitude changes. The least important is to pass the checkpoints accurately (there is a certain distance within which you can pass the checkpoint).

Anybody going to Maatraich on the 2nd of February for Stage 1 FEAST testing?

I got picked for phase 1 on the 2 nd February :)

Guys do they provide a refund for the international applicants?

Hello everybody, sorry to bust in. I have a small but as i see it, kind of crucial question regarding the Multipass test of the Feast 2 section.

Would it please be possible for anyone to provide a little more details? I would be more than grateful for anything.

Thank you!

Is it allowed to use a scratch paper during phase 1?

Hi!

Some say it's bad to have an idea on what the tests cover, since it would allow us to "practice", gain confidence, or stress even more, and ultimately have a bad result in the end. That's definitely true, and I truly recommend you to stay blind on the tests's contents. But this is the Internet (free information), and after all it's up to you if you want to know what the Multipass is. I'll describe it, then. Proceed at your own risk. You don't need any of this to pass the test.

The multipass is kind of an ATC "approach" game. The screen is divided in some areas:

1. The radar: Represents an airport with two main lanes, both ending in a final runway ("Final North" or FN and "Final South" or FS). The north lane has two entry points: A and B, and the final runway (FN). The same happens at FS (D->C->FS). You have also some secondary lanes that, for example, allow planes to change lanes (entering at D but move north, to B, and land at FN). Each plane is represented the pretty much the same way as in the DART.

2. The clock: Everything depends on the clock. It counts the session's time, and everything you have to do depends on it.

3. The strips: You're given a strip for each plane, containing the flight's number, flight level (10, 20, 30 or 40), the route and the timings: it tells you when the plane will arrive at a certain point (for example it enters the radar at A at 0min 30sec, passes B at 3min 0sec, and reaches FN at 5min). You can change the route of the plane if it hasn't yet reached that point (in the previous example, if the clock marks 4min the plane has already passed the B point so you can't change this point).

4. The bay areas: You have some bay areas where the strips fit. One for each point (A, B, FN at the top, and D, C, FS at the bottom). As a plane proceeds from, for example, A>C>FS (thus using the secondary lane, since the main lane is A->B>FN), you have to sort the plane according to its next point. If the plane passes point A at 0min 30sec, and the clock marks 0min 46sec, the strip should be moved to point C.

5. Objective: You have to keep the screen organized, and avoid conflicts (for example if two planes are supposed to land at FN both at 2min 30sec, you have to change the route of one of them in order to avoid conflicts). You can, nevertheless, have both planes on the same route and same flight schedule if you have them at different flight levels, but since every plane has to land at flight level 10, you'll be just postponing a future conflict.

6. Extra task: As usual, you'll be facing multitasking stuff. This time, a string containing 3 letters and 3 numbers will be presented on the screen for some seconds. You have to memorize it. Then, a voice will call for other similar strings (3 letters, 3 numbers), and if it does match the one you memorized, you'll have to press a button. That's all.

TIP: The best tip I can give you is to stay calm and always keep an eye on the clock. You'll be doing not more than 3-6 things in one minute, but they may be scattered all over the screen so always keep a sense of time (the next minute, those tasks have expired and you have some others).

TIP 2: Just relax, eat well and sleep well. The tests are not difficult and they're not very "intense", but they're big and a bit boring sometimes. So stay alert and feed yourself!

Hi, thank you so much for your reply, we shall see how it works. For the moment i passed feast 1 and i'm waiting to be scheduled for the second part :D

It seems like that it depends on the country you're applying to. I just did both DART and Multipass last week :)

Let's not confuse Multipass with the old SDM, since they seem to be different tests

Hello,

I just failed the FEAST 1 at MUAC today... 4 participants out of +- 15 went to the FEAST 2.
They told that there're no ways to prepare to the FEAST but I don't think so.
The most difficult part for me which was the "cube folding" could be prepared before. I'll know it for the next time. By the way, is it possible to retake the FEAST test again at MUAC and if yes, within what time period ?

I think you can retake the exam 2 years later if you are still within the required age limit. Cube folding seems like the part that eliminates most of the applicants.

The cube folding test is indeed a tricky one. My advice would be to find some similar tests on the internet. As for a retake, it is possible to apply again but only 2 years later than your first application. You can also ask for a feedback. They may give you some clues on what you can improve in order to be succesful during your next attempt. Good luck !

I can't fine on the Internet cube folding exercices as difficult as the Eurocontrol one.

Any idea when the next group will start their training?

October 2017

Hello,

I wonder if there's anyone here who's been invited to take the initial tests on 30th March? And how many people are usually in a group?

FEAST part 1
 

Hey new here!
Ive been invited to take the FEAST test part 1 on the 3rd of April in dublin at half 8? Anyone here the same?

Thanks!

Hey guys, just registered here 'cause it was about time I started getting some news from other people. I did the Phase 2 and interviews on 21st and 22nd of March and I was the only one who got through both in Phase 1 on Feb 20th and Interview. I was wondering if there was anyone here in the group who passed as well and is waiting to be invited for the medicals? So far I know no one else who has passed, so please raise your hands :P

Congrats. There should be sixteen peeps altogether for the October ab initio group and they had five or six last time I checked, in February. Also, the latest group is looking forward to meeting you in Toulouse.

Thank you! Where do you check how many people have passed until now? :O and man 6 people is really a low number. I'm actually amazed. Looking forward to meeting them there as well :)

So we've been told at the time. No idea what the figure is today.

Oh okok, so you have passed as well I assume? :)

Yes. See you soon.

Does anyone know if you have already passed FEAST and DART through the NATS application process, will you have to sit it again for Eurocontrol?

Whether you can apply for Eurocontrol too depends on what happened to your NATS application. E-mail masuac.students [at] eurocontrol.int with your details about what you have done so far with NATS and they can tell you if you can apply and what you would have to do.

Thanks. I have my final stage of NATS process in June so I'll await the outcome of that before I contact them. :)

If you think you might want to go to Eurocontrol instead of NATS (the money and pension is much better at MUAC, the work environment not), then you should contact them now. If Eurocontrol is simply your backup plan if you fail at NATS then you would most likely be wasting your time I'm afraid (unless your FEAST scores are exceptional).

I think the Feast lasts a couple years. So if you have done it then you don't have to take it again at Eurocontrol. You'll just tell them, they'll contact NATS and eventually you'll be invited for the group phase and eventually the interview. When I was doing the tests some guys had done it that way so you shouldn't have any problem with that. But as said, if it's just your backup plan then be careful cause the invitation is not 100% sure

Hi everyone!

I just passed to the second phase of Eurocontrol and got informed that there will be a test called Multipass . I have no idea what this is , and there is nothing on the web . The only test which sounds like it is Multicontrol but i don't believe its the same one.

Does anyone have any information regarding Multi Pass ?

Thanks a lot!

Hey all, I just wanted to know when you are invited for tests at MUAC, how long do you'll stay in Maastricht for if you'll have passed the first phase ?

Because for me I live in Dubai and if I am invited for Phase 1 at Maastricht, I'm not sure how long I will have to be there for and so I am seeking advice.

Thank you.

Update: I am called for Phase 1 on Tuesday 9th May. Anyone else invited for this date ?

Sounds weird 'cause Eurocontrol's Phase 2 consists of the group testing and then Interviews. The Multipass (as well as the Darts) should've taken place as part of your Phase 1 after completing the Feast I (in fact if I recall correctly Multipass and Darts are together part of the Feast II).

However in the Multipass you need to organize flightstrips according to the sequence of aircrafts you have. The aircrafts follow predefined routes down to the runway so the only thing you need to worry about is merely organizing the sequence and paying attention to the altitudes. While doing this you'll be required to perform a secondary task in order to test your multitasking abilities.
If you search "Multipass test" and see some images you'll see some pics of it! :)