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BigBoeing 25th Sep 2008 15:40

something going on?
 
is something going on?

the goon 25th Sep 2008 15:42

I heard that London Radar (?) is having a few problems...........

inner 25th Sep 2008 15:45

Just heard that Manchester and london not accepting traffic, except arriving gatwick and heathrow traffic????

Mr_Grubby 25th Sep 2008 15:49

Yes.

Swanwick is now operating in manual mode.

Grubby.

BigBoeing 25th Sep 2008 15:50

and no departures from anywhere for a while?

Dont Hang Up 25th Sep 2008 16:03

I am seeing departures from Gatwick and Heathrow as we speak.

Charley B 25th Sep 2008 16:06

Can confirm that a few outbounds have just left Gatwick in the last 10-15 mins:)

Dont Hang Up 25th Sep 2008 16:09

And plenty of inbounds over the North Sea and the Channel.

SpringHeeledJack 25th Sep 2008 16:18

Would that explain the low flying biz-jet around 4.30pm (Falcon 2000) that whistled over one's castle in the sarf-west London area ? Most unusual and not more than 1500 agl. Looked to be heading towards a final app to LCY.

Regards


SHJ

HeathrowAirport 25th Sep 2008 16:37

London City is operational by my view... I can't see anything from Heathrow. Most likely as it's easterlies atm.

Regards,

R..

inner 25th Sep 2008 16:41

ok thx for info

ArtfulDodger 25th Sep 2008 17:20

18:06hrs

No real build up of pax in the LHR CTA terminals yet.

My staff report all quite quiet so far, wasn't a busy day generally though.

AD

expediteoff 25th Sep 2008 17:21

Funny old World innit!? -

Demise of the Air Traffic Pension scheme announced on one day, Air Traffic computer failure 24 hours later!

Never mind, I expect all you well motivated staff will be pulling out the stops to help the Company out of this latest crisis.

Mr_Grubby 25th Sep 2008 17:53

expediteoff.
Despite your rather sarcastic post, I can assure you that we, (and I use the Royal We because I am long out of the loop ) will be pulling out all the stops to get the system up and running as soon as possible.

What are you trying to suggest ??

classicwings 25th Sep 2008 18:02

I am assuming that this computer 'glitch' was giving Area Controllers inaccurate or perhaps no altitude readouts next to flights at high level on their screens. Arnt NATS currently recruiting for new Air Traffic Engineers.................:eek:

FDP_Walla 25th Sep 2008 18:12

ClassicWing

A quick look at your posts shows that you failed the personality test for entrance to NATS and your last post shows why. Run along now.....

classicwings 25th Sep 2008 18:19

FDP Walla, Given the context of you reply i am assuming that you are a NATS employee, and you, therefore, will no doubt be able to correct my dire inaccurate assumptions with the textbook answer. After all an assumption is not statement of fact.
:ok:

SENFLYER 25th Sep 2008 18:27

As you prob know this is all over the bbc now, I wish sometimes they would butt out dramatising every little glitch into a huge drama! Any updates at all not that I have a long list of a/c waiting lol :ok:

beaver liquor 25th Sep 2008 18:32

Its a big deal. BA have cx a lot of their short haul. thousands of passengers have been badly disrupted and delayed.

Wasn't there a major software update last night??

SENFLYER 25th Sep 2008 18:45

Fyi From Nats
 
Interruption to the air traffic control serviceAir traffic control operations returned to normal at 7pm tonight after a fault in one of the systems that feeds the controller workstations at the London Area Control Centre.

Restrictions were imposed on the number of aircraft entering UK airspace through London Area Control sectors – airspace above 24,000ft above England and Wales - and those taking off from major UK airports. This maintains safety whilst controllers operate with manual systems at reduced capacity; it does mean, however, that flights incur delay.

Scottish airspace, Manchester Area airspace and Manchester and London Terminal Control airspace operated normally throughout.

Ian Hall, NATS’ Director Operational Performance, said: “Safety has not been compromised at any stage and we sincerely apologise to those who have been inconvenienced this evening. We are working closely with airlines to increase capacity this evening to help minimise delays and impact on the rest of today’s schedules.

“NATS handles nearly 2.5m flights a year and our systems are incredibly resilient. We take every step to avoid any problems but are always aware, that in maintaining and updating highly complex systems, we can experience difficulties.

“We do sincerely apologise for inconvenience to travellers.”


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