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black hawk down 19th Jul 2008 08:32

Muscat ATC training Centre
 
Can someone help me out figure out,what is the exact job of the training unit in DG? if you have also the airforce ATC college carring out ATC courses.
Because you jave alot of man power in that training centre+the Air force college=but not alot of ATCO's come out of the production line:confused:

black hawk down 20th Jul 2008 20:15

what im trying to get at,is there a person who used to be part of the T.C ?who can highlight the objective of that place and its people.coz all i see so far and over the tears is them failing people after those people pass in international colleges from around the world with flying colours:ugh:
please step out and speak and save alot of coming genrations that are yet to be butchered in the T.C

Farrell 20th Jul 2008 20:31

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DTLP 21st Jul 2008 05:42

Comic genius - I love it Farrell :D:ok:

Oceans13 21st Jul 2008 07:15

Farrell....

You have to be kidding. The training centre is a joke. I think you need to check your facts about the standard of training. I have been involved with training for many years and the training centre falls short in almost every aspect. You are an English teacher not an Air Traffic Controller and I suspect from your comments that this is the first training college you have worked in. I think you should go and have a look at any Western European, Australian or New Zealand training college and come back to this post before making any further comment.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but DGCAM's training college is not even nearly first class.

black hawk down 21st Jul 2008 09:37

Sorry but i dont see whats the relation between Mr.Big "R" saving the days and cleaning up the T.C(where he spent his best most relaxed Dictatorship years).off course he will rebuild it all over again,thats the least he can do,its where all the business deals were cracked and free phone calls,internet,all the time you need to relax and do nothing or even right a book and think of having more babies.i talk about productivity,fairness and the destiny of alot of ATCO's never to become even that alot of people know that they are good but Mr.big "R" thinks otherwise.
note:i have great respect to Hilal,and i think that he is a walking living encyclopedia but the fact is and you know deep inside and we all know that he has no word or a saying in anything and all in the T.C

black hawk down 24th Jul 2008 17:11

Farrell oh farrell,now i know who you are,you are not even involved with the training in the T.C.

divingduck 25th Jul 2008 23:44


coz all i see so far and over the tears is them failing people after those people pass in international colleges from around the world with flying colours
spare me....:ugh::ugh::ugh: If you had any idea at all, you would remove that particular line.:rolleyes:

I have no comment about the training centre, as it has quite obviously changed totally since I was last there (Gonu didn't help either:E)

black hawk down 26th Jul 2008 09:41

WTF (no one asked you your comment,we all know it D.D after you were denied a job in the T.C you loser.
its obvious that you carry alot against people here in Muscat Thats why you started your fourm.

Fox3snapshot 26th Jul 2008 12:32

BHD
 
If you are trying to provide us with cheap entertainment to pass the days in the summer heat you are doing a fantastic job :D

:rolleyes:

black hawk down 26th Jul 2008 15:15

they aint cheap mate,and suite yourself if you dont beleive them(we will understand)...you know for the sake of good old days:ok:
Lets talk about cars me and you its much better issue:D

black hawk down 27th Jul 2008 10:33

now back to the subject,any more people wanna open their hearts on what is really going on on the T.C
speak now or be silent forever:bored:

Farrell 28th Jul 2008 19:41

BHD - let it go. It is NOT going to happen! Go bark up another tree!

black hawk down 29th Jul 2008 17:40

again buddy im telling you,im talking about REAL people who were or still involved in our training process,just mind your level 4 stuff and lrt it be.
GEE unbelievable

Farrell 29th Jul 2008 18:01

I've just had a long hard look in the mirror......

Am I not REAL?

Fox3snapshot 30th Jul 2008 01:21

Farrell.....
 
For continuing to respond to this pointless thread...possibly not... :oh:

black hawk down 30th Jul 2008 08:52

come on guys,its for the future and to improve training process here in Muscat,you fox why dont you help out,what do you think?what will improve training here?
(other than shooting Mr.big R)
how can we make the T.C a better place?:rolleyes:

Fox3snapshot 30th Jul 2008 16:11

BHD
 
I would really like to think things could improve and for your sake I really hope they do.

Unfortunately after almost 11 years in the sandpit I have become a little more realistic as far as what to expect....and unfortunately I don't expect too much change coming your way for a while. In fact horrible to say, it may even get worse before it gets better! :suspect:

I genuinely feel sorry for the gang down that way that are having to put up with equipment outages, staff shortages and infrastructure deficiencies as it used to be the ATC jewel of the Middle East but things seem to have taken a turn for the worse.

Good luck with it all, we'll always help as much as we can this side of the fence... :uhoh:

Quokka 30th Jul 2008 18:17

Nothing will improve for the Muscateers until, amongst other things, Oman installs a Eurocat or a seriously upgraded Raytheon or Hughes system with a FDP that removes the initial co-ordination of Flight Plans-by-voice and estimates-by-voice bottleneck during peak periods and that allows for full messaging exchange with the systems in UAE and Mumbai.

It won't happen until the bureaucrats in the region agree to a full exchange of system co-ordination... which won't happen.

It won't happen until the move to the new Centre in the new Terminal on the other side... which won't happen until... ?

Therefore, for the controllers in Muscat it's... :{

black hawk down 30th Jul 2008 18:28

i think that most of the problem with the traffic flow is mimbai.it effects Muscat and uae and onward the rest of the west traffic,if the just get out of stone age those people in Mumbai and act a bit up to date with the ATC job life would be easier by i think 30% something like that?
can you imagine putting traffic 10nm in trail with same speed into Mumbai IFR,life sweet life
all will be a bit happier


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