Aberdeen ATC are recruiting for controllers, civil or mil. No selection tests and starting wage is 46000 pounds. There may even be an abreviated conversion course for ex-mil controllers.
atcomarkingtime
31st May 2008 17:53
sounds good...are the staff nice!!!LOL:ok:
simfly
31st May 2008 18:16
erm, I hope that means they are desperate and that is still the case end of July, there's one chap at the college desperate for EGPD, but a bit worried as he's the only one due to finish dual rated so could be in demand!
AJ7
31st May 2008 18:22
talk about trying to sell yourself sim... want an agent to do it for you? :E
simfly
31st May 2008 18:30
who ya got in mind :hmm: I'm still owed for selling you to LL!
AJ7
31st May 2008 18:36
haha... must have been a damn hard sell too. they're yet to realise they've been sold a dud... :ouch:
SACrIGGER
31st May 2008 19:03
Where do I sign?
tired-flyboy
31st May 2008 20:14
There may 'even be', surely you mean there will be as i thought that Mil licenses were not legal to control in a civilian app/twr unit.
if that is not the case, how are PD getting away with it. I'd be very interested seeing as i worked with most of the guys there in a previous life.
throw a dyce
1st Jun 2008 06:54
You need a CAA licence.The ex mil guys have all converted,with lots of tails about types of course,and funding agreements.
neilmac
1st Jun 2008 08:31
Aberdeen ATC
Sent you have a PM.
NM
rodan
1st Jun 2008 14:01
What are the prospects of not sitting on Angular Radar/offshore/Sumburgh for the rest of one's career? Timescale for moving to TWR &/or PD Radar?
airwaverider
1st Jun 2008 14:42
Has anyone got details where to apply for this??
throw a dyce
2nd Jun 2008 06:58
Rodan,
If you go Offshore then it's about 50/50 to whether you stay there,or move across.Quite a few have come across,struggled and quit.Then gone back Offshore.
Aberdeen Tower and Approach can get mental often.Offshore is well paid for the traffic levels.Airport is underpaid,but there you go.That's our union ''working together''.
Married a Canadian
2nd Jun 2008 08:15
If you go Offshore then it's about 50/50 to whether you stay there,or move across.Quite a few have come across,struggled and quit.
TAD....to be fair...there was always a LOT of politics involved in the offshore to approach/tower slide anyway. When I got posted to EGPD straight from the college with my fresh approch/aerodrome course under my belt I got put on offshore...a "new" rating...that had never been mentioned at the college and I would never have chosen as first choice. I was never even given a chance to test myself on approach.
If you sit for a couple of years or more working "quiet" traffic levels on offshore before finally getting to move over to the more manic approach/tower then it is not surprising that the validation rates are not as high as ones who went straight onto the approach/tower side. It would be interesting to see stats of those controllers who struggled to make it...how long had they been on offshore for?
Sitting there getting stale...with no choice in the matter for some was hardly conducive to keep your ATC skills fresh....and the outflow of controllers from Aberdeen for a period was testament to that. Plus...whether it was a union agreement or not...when EGPD hired ex RAF guys to go straight onto APP/Tower...jumping ahead of guys who had been waiting on offshore to train was hardly a great PR move...and not an example of "working together".
Difficult situation to manage to be fair....there always will be the Offshore/Airport split. And for some ISZ will never be a "desirable" location..NATS has to get numbers for the unit however it can. I hopethe unit continues to thrive despite the internal politics and the complications that the various sectors inside can pose.
