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HEATHROW DIRECTOR 28th Sep 2010 19:06

I logged LH 727s there 1960-64, but they were probably there some years later.

BEA Daks, or Pionairs as they used to call them, were 1950s and the latest I logged one was 1960, although some were to be seen in the liveries of other airlines until some years later.

Aaahh.. thoses big stairs, not Panam SuperStairs perchance? They used to ferry them across to the Panam hangar and a colleague of mine used to sing:
"Here he comes, SuperStairs, going to the hangar to collect some spares".

Amos Keeto 28th Sep 2010 20:28

Well yes, 'modellers licence' again having a BEA DC-3 and a Lufthansa 727 together which never would have met! The last BEA DC-3 service was indeed on 10th May 1962 between Islay-Cambletown-Glasgow and the first Lufthansa Boeing 727 service into LHR was in May 1964 (not before!). Since that photo was taken, I have since added Starways and British Westpoint Airlines DC-3s to the collection, which would be more authentic.

HEATHROW DIRECTOR 29th Sep 2010 07:02

oooppss... sorry. You are correct about 727s. With my poor eyesight I was reading my logs for 720s.

Amos Keeto 28th Aug 2015 09:25

Just an an 'ad on' to this, I am working on a book marking the 70th anniversary of Heathrow next year. Does anyone have any original prints of the official aerial views showing the BEA and BOAC engineering bases in the '50s and '60s that they would be kind enough to scan to include in this?

Mr Optimistic 28th Aug 2015 16:22

AK, how is it you haven't aged in 5 years ;)

DaveReidUK 28th Aug 2015 17:43


Originally Posted by Amos Keeto (Post 9097776)
Just an an 'ad on' to this, I am working on a book marking the 70th anniversary of Heathrow next year. Does anyone have any original prints of the official aerial views showing the BEA and BOAC engineering bases in the '50s and '60s that they would be kind enough to scan to include in this?

Have you looked at the photos in Ian Anderson's book?

Talkdownman 28th Aug 2015 18:14


Ian Anderson
Jethro Tull…?

DaveReidUK 28th Aug 2015 18:50

No, the author of "Heathrow: From Tents to Terminal 5"

A different sort of living in the past. :O

Minesthechevy 28th Aug 2015 19:16

Bloody depressing is when you smile at reading some guys whose posts make reference to your era of music, then you realise why you shouldn't call them 'old guys'.:O

Musket90 28th Aug 2015 20:39

Minesthechevy

That era of music will live on forever and not "in the past". You need to be "Thick as a Brick" not to appreciate it. I may have listened to some of it in your company.

Back to the subject thread. Back in July '87 I remember being involved in the planning of the 10/28 to 09/27 changeover. We hoped it wasn't going to rain on the night when the runway painted designators were changed and I believe it was dry. What a relief.

In those days the red/white holding point signs didn't have the designators, they just stated "Runway Ahead" so these didn't have to change. Nowadays all airport runway holding point red/white signs are required to show the runway designators, also some yellow/black info signs have runway numbers, so when magnetic variation changes require runway designations to change then there's a lot more for an airport to do than just repainting the runway numbers.

Time to listen again to "Aqualung" I think. Brilliant album

Mr Optimistic 28th Aug 2015 21:29

From Tents to Terminal 5?

With a title like that it must have flown off the shelves.:zzz:

ZOOKER 28th Aug 2015 22:34

This discussion is deteriorating rapidly. So I'm going 'Up The 'Pool', 'Teacher', please give my regards to 'Dr. Bogenbroom'.

good egg 28th Aug 2015 23:15

Off-topic but here's a pic of them swapping the RW28 designator to RW27 at London City.... ;)
http://www.navjot-singh.com/uploads/3/1/7/4/3174873/9630477_orig.jpg

HEATHROW DIRECTOR 29th Aug 2015 06:53

Musket90.. were you Chef1, 2 or 3?

Musket90 29th Aug 2015 10:07

HD - Affirm

HEATHROW DIRECTOR 29th Aug 2015 11:58

We must have spoken many times on the wireless!

Take care and GL.. Brendan McCartney (Ex A Watch ATC).

Musket90 29th Aug 2015 17:54

Yes I'm sure. Great times, great memories '87 to early '93

ATB
DMac

DaveW 30th Aug 2015 20:50


Originally Posted by good egg (Post 9098499)
Off-topic but here's a pic of them swapping the RW28 designator to RW27 at London City.... ;)
http://www.navjot-singh.com/uploads/...30477_orig.jpg

ge, that's fabulous. :D

For those that didn't click through:

http://www.navjot-singh.com/uploads/...30477_orig.jpg

chevvron 31st Aug 2015 15:50

There's nothing going on at the other end of the runway so presumably it became Runway 10/27!!
With the shadows to the east, it must've been a saturday afternoon.

DaveReidUK 31st Aug 2015 16:11


Originally Posted by chevvron (Post 9100977)
With the shadows to the east, it must've been a saturday afternoon.

No way. That's an RAF Chinook, must have been a weekday (though not a Friday afternoon, obviously). :O


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