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TUF250 5th Nov 2010 05:13

I know this is probably a hard question to answer but in ASA history, do they tend to make offers to those who have had successful referee checks or do they check everyone and make a short list from there?

regards.

Toboto 5th Nov 2010 09:04

And don't burn any old bridges either..

Captain Homer 5th Nov 2010 12:49

always have a backup plan
 
i concur, maybe even take long service or leave without pay for 12mths, no sure thing in this game.
but give it all you've got and try and be one of the few that get through....

stupidthursday 7th Nov 2010 19:18

Hey TUF, where did you go for the assessment, melb or brissy? Just curious. :O

TUF250 7th Nov 2010 21:59

in melbourne mate. what about yourself? have you heard anything more?

stupidthursday 8th Nov 2010 01:51

I did mine in melb as well. No i haven't heard anything yet. But like what they said, referees wouldn't be contacted if you didn't pass the assessment. I guess we just have to hang on a little bit longer.

Fatty182 8th Nov 2010 05:19

At least your references have been contacted, mine haven't been yet :P But maybe they are doing Melbourne people first since your assessment days were like 3-4 weeks ago, Brisbane's first assessment day was only 3 weeks ago this Wednesday. That's what I'm hoping at least :P Congratulations tho! Hopefully I'll be joining you soon enough :)

Something ATC 8th Nov 2010 06:25

Hi all,

One of mine was contacted last week. Havent heard anything since though. The waiting is a killer.

Good luck to all

Fatty182 12th Nov 2010 01:13

The waiting is killing meeeeeeeee..... Still haven't had my references contacted either.... :confused:

fivel 12th Nov 2010 12:45

Get use to the waiting
But don't worry too much Fatty, they sort everything out very strangely. Unless you have heard that you're definately out, you're still in the running. If they had scratched your name you would know.


Just make sure guys and girls it's what you want. Cause it's not a quick path and there's a lot of ****/obstacles along the way(that have nothing to do with the job). Thankfully (especially after plugging into the real world recently) it is worth it. I can tell you right now before you start confidence and attitude is the key. (Im sure even my good buddy enemyMig would agree)

rossco47 12th Nov 2010 23:17


they sort everything out very strangely. Unless you have heard that you're definately out, you're still in the running.
Totally agree, however...


If they had scratched your name you would know.
Past experience is now suggesting I start to be concerned. I realise no-one has actually been advised either way yet, but, last time around the rejection emails came out about three weeks after the testing day - but what made it worse is that the successful ones were already doing the next steps of the process by then.

Believe me I'm far from a doomsday type of person, but if referees haven't been contacted by now you have to be concerned.

I'm now *so* hoping they have an even stranger system than before and that I'm wrong...

5miles 14th Nov 2010 04:59


new requirement to rapidly increase the training throughput....
That's what management want.


this will take time.
That's the reality.

TUF250 14th Nov 2010 07:46

I take it that still no one has heard yes or no yet?

I'm wondering if its worth sending off an email enquiring as us 'melbourne' people were told we would here in the first week of November.

enemyMiG 14th Nov 2010 09:05

Some good advice above, even from fivel.

There will be times that your confidence takes a battering. Be prepared to pick yourself up and continue to hack away.

Mixed results from emailing AsA, try if you want, but don't expect a definitive answer. Remember "no news is good news".

Kinda makes it hard to make plans though...

Fatty182 14th Nov 2010 23:44

Ah ok, good to see Melbourne people haven't even heard and you were told you'd hear weeks ago (well, good for us Brisbane people sweating at least :P)

I've considered emailing ASA, but figured it would be pointless too, but the missus is getting annoyed again, and at least emailing them and getting a "we're still working on it" response counts as me doing something :P They're gonna have to at least let some people know soon tho, given a course starts Jan 4! I imagine at this stage tho, the first course will be filled with Melbourne based people who won't have the moving drama, but they'll still need to give notice at their current jobs....

dreamer84 16th Nov 2010 01:06

Hi guys,

Apologies for repeating anyone here and asking something no one may be able to answer! But I'll try anyway;

I'm expecting a phone interview in Dec/Jan. If that goes well I assume it means travelling to MEL for testing. Does anyone have any reasonable idea when I could expect the training course to begin? ie leaving current employment and moving interstate. Not counting on me getting in but the more idea I have about things the better!

Thanks.

rossco47 16th Nov 2010 07:37


I'm expecting a phone interview in Dec/Jan. If that goes well I assume it means travelling to MEL for testing. Does anyone have any reasonable idea when I could expect the training course to begin? ie leaving current employment and moving interstate. Not counting on me getting in but the more idea I have about things the better!
As a guide (but always subject to change):-

The current round are, in theory, going to fill the January, February and April courses. On that basis (and assuming no overflow from this round) one could guess the next round would be to fill courses from mid May onwards.

I would assume testing would be in MEL and BNE as it was last time.

This would of course be subject to any number of possible changes.


The GM of HR has just been awarded permanent gardening leave. Whatever this means for training/recruitment, and consequently timelines for future/planned courses is anyones guess.
Could that be the first thing to start influencing the timetable? Time will tell.

stupidthursday 16th Nov 2010 08:37

permanent gardening leave? will it have a big impact on the recruitment?

max1 16th Nov 2010 10:48


will it have a big impact on the recruitment?
Hasn't for the last 7 years, so far.

To all those out there waiting to get in, there has been a lot of office politics for years. It is bad that this has affected you all. The actual ATC side has not had a lot of input into who is actually selected for a loooong time.

This has changed in the last few months, and about time. Actual ATCs have been included, in a positive way, in the testing. The people I know who have been a part of the testing phase are experienced ATCs, and seem (unusually) confident that they are now involved in selecting people who show an aptitude for doing ATC.

If you are selected, best of luck, work hard and you'll get there. If you don't know something or don't understand something, ask.
In Aviation in general,be it ATC, pilots,engineers,etc, we have the most finely sensitised BS detectors. We know when you don't know, come clean and we can help.

Made82 16th Nov 2010 22:38

References
 
Hello All,
FYi went to the Brisbane Testing days, my references were contacted today


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