thought this was interesting

http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc...c=GetTRDoc.pdf

Hahaha the fun is just begining now for you then! There is plenty more exams Enemymig as the course rolls on (unless there has been a big shake up since I left a few years back) and just wait for your prac exams! Talk about nerves! Procedural tower is great fun though :ok:

Did you get scones for morning tea at the induction today?

That's what gave us the edge in surviving 'Death by Powerpoint'.....;)

ha ha.. Yes we did.. Yummo! With Jam & Cream :-). We went out for dinner tonight also at an Italian place - thanks AsA ;-)

Funnily enough I was side awake for every presentation... think I'm about to flake out now though.

Hi all and thanks for all of the helpful information everyone has shared so far. For those waiting patiently on the current merit list (from the Dec '09 email), there is a light at the end of the tunnel. I have just received my verbal offer for a June 7 course start. So I imagine that many of you will also be getting phone calls in the near future. Looking forward to meeting all of you in June, especially many of the entertaining characters I feel I have gotten to know through their posts on this thread over the past 9 months since my application... Thanks again. Cheers AFR... :ok:

Heard yesterday that the training bond has been increased from $70K over 5 years to $250K over same period. Anyone got anything in writing yet?

AFR, just out of curiosity, when did you receive the e-mail asking you to update your references?

Hi nick83, just had a look through my emails and I rec'd the Order of Merit list email on the 21/12/09 and then I got the Confirmation of Referees email the following day (22/12/09). My referees were contacted mid to late Jan so it's been a long 5-6 weeks waiting since they were contacted. I was starting to think it was all over and my referees blasted me, so was very happy to get the call today... Hang in there, it's going to happen and you'll be glad when the call comes.

I also got my call today, verbal offer

i start, june 7th, melb enroute :)

worth the long wait! :ok:

edit : i live in QLD so im looking for some housing, if anyone is interested in sharing a place

"the training bond has been increased from $70K over 5 years to $250K over same period"

:eek:

Is this so that the Germans are less likely to continye paying it out for those who decide that Airservices may not be 'a great place to work'?

Are you pulling my leg?

AFR, Viper looks like we are on the same course, look forward to meeting you both. Viper I live in brisbane and am in the same boat we should catch up for a beer sometime.

Only in america
 

interesting!

Air traffic controller suspended for allowing son to direct planes

Congrats brissyboy & Viper, I too am from Brisbane and yeah I reckon we should try and organise something prior to moving down to Mlb. When did you do the psych testing? I did mine on show day, Wed 12th August.

We started course this week & the bond is still $70k. There was rumour a few months ago that it was $250k.. but it's still $70K at this stage.

See you at the Academy in a few months !! :-)

Glad to hear all is running well! :ok:

Our paperwork from 12 months ago is $250k.

be nice to clear this up!

whats a lazy $180k!!

Is the bond amount that big a deal? Are you all planing on leaving before 5 yrs? As long as they don't up to it 10 or 15 yrs I don't see a problem with a larger figure.

Do you really want someone doing the job who doesn't want to be there (for whatever reason), but are locked into a huge debt if they leave?

Yes, that means they've written off a large training cost but that already occurs when they release to the field trainees who shouldn't have passed. And yes, that does happen.

Considering that with less than 5 years experience you are very unlikely to get a gig anywhere* else in the world, what on earth is the reason for bonding new joiners with a crippling pay out figure like that?

Having worked on Tops, I said at the time I got the transfer that had I gone into that group straight from the college I would have quit straight away (it took me 2 years to do so after 13 years elsewhere in AsA and CAA). If these poor suckers get that posting AND a $250000 bond, I really feel for them. Seriously. The 15 or so (27 man roster) of us that quit from Tops in the last 12 months are proof of that.


*Germany have been paying out the bond for 'experienced' recruits from OZ at the $70K level who are still bonded bt I expect the $250K will be another matter.