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mrtwister 12th Aug 2009 09:43

Written Offer
 
Written offer came today. Superpumped. Didn't realise they had a condition where if you leave the job before 5 years of service you have to pay them back for the training. Can see the reason for it but sure makes you think long and hard.

gemmy 12th Aug 2009 11:07

MrTwister..! Nice one.

Wow, the bond is only 5yrs?? I thought it was 7yrs.

Gee less than I had to serve in the RAAF !! haha.. I'll patiently keep twiddling my tumbs until they contact my referees later in the year or early next year.

Congrats on getting the official word though, start packing up your house :ok:

nick83 13th Aug 2009 04:30

psychometric test- on page 1 of this forum there is an excellent post by levitate that describes the tests in detail. Knowing why to expect helped me the most I think and it made me feel much more prepared when
he would start describing the test and I already knew what it was about! Best of luck!

jrbridge 13th Aug 2009 05:41

You only have to pay back $250000. That's small change for an ATC trainee.

adc123 13th Aug 2009 13:11

no where near that high mate, it also reduces over the years. also only applies once you get your first rating. i guess it keeps you from heading overseas..

Salinger 14th Aug 2009 02:06

It's actually $70,000 which reduces by 20% each year you stay until your 5 years are up. Quite a bit of cash, but since they're paying for my training and paying me to be trained, I figure it's fair! Especially since my HECS debt is enormous and nobody will be paying that for me :(

Source: I got my written offer in the mail yesterday.

Scanorama 15th Aug 2009 01:56

Got an email from AsA yesterday:

Dear Applicants,

For those of you who have already completed your psychometric testing day, I hope all went well and I thank you for your attendance. For those who have yet to attend, I wish you all the very best!
This email is to clarify information some candidates received at their testing day in recent weeks. A majority of you were informed on the day that you would receive your results within 48 hours of completing the test. This information was INCORRECT.

The testing days are currently taking place nationally, and this will be continuing until the end of August. Not until ALL of these have been finalised will we be looking over the results. You will be notified at the end of this month or early September via email as to whether or not you were successful. If you passed the testing day you will also be informed of the next stage of the process.

The ATC in Training recruitment process can be quite a lengthy process and I appreciate your eagerness to move this process along. I sincerely do appreciate your patience and I will be in contact as soon as possible with the outcome of your testing day.


mrtwister 15th Aug 2009 21:24

Hey Salinger,

Congrats on the offer. Which course are you lined up for?

jrbridge 15th Aug 2009 22:57

That's a bit odd, my contract states
"Traning Costs means the amount of $250000 on account of the ATC Training provided by AirServices to the employee."

This reduces 20% per year after the first year of employment.

Unless the contracts have changed?

That's a big difference!

melbATC 16th Aug 2009 00:56


That's a bit odd, my contract states
"Traning Costs means the amount of $250000 on account of the ATC Training provided by AirServices to the employee."

This reduces 20% per year after the first year of employment.

Unless the contracts have changed?

That's a big difference!
jr,

I don't know why your contract would say $250000, I signed mine just over 12 months ago and the amount was $70000 then.

jrbridge 16th Aug 2009 03:05

We got our results straight away as well. Only 4 from our day of 25 passed.

mrtwister 16th Aug 2009 09:29

I did my Psychometric Testing in February this year and the facilitator told us that he had been instructed to tell us that the pass or fail email will be sent in 2-3 weeks (that was when the other cities were due to finish their testing), that it was simply pass or fail (no scores) and that he had no idea what the pass marks were or would be.

I must say, ASA did fire off the pass/fail email pretty soon after all the cities completed their testing. It was easily the fastest response of all the stages.

By the way (to all you experienced ATCs out there) how often are controllers relocated without a choice. The Cert Agreement mentions ASA's right to make compulsory relocations but how often, in reality, do these occur these days?

cbradio 17th Aug 2009 04:50

hey ratc

from this a few months ago


is it on tower road,

for those people who have gone through the interview phase, what actually is asked in the interview.

is there a bus that goes past the control tower entrance ot control centre up at brisbane.
to this


a number of atc already working will have dropped out not of stress (maybe 2) but boredom working the boring sectors
seems quite a jump. It it's so boring before you start, why are you bothering?


i hope to see you out wokring the adjacent sectors to me.

not likely is it? ;)

Eastside 17th Aug 2009 04:53

testing
 
can you use calculator at the psychometric test stage?

melbATC 17th Aug 2009 05:36


can you use calculator at the psychometric test stage?
Sorry only mental maths.

5miles 17th Aug 2009 07:58


By the way (to all you experienced ATCs out there) how often are controllers relocated without a choice.
Whilst there is a clause in the C.A. that allows for compulsory transfers, it's very rarely enacted.

With all of enroute & ML, CB, BN, CG Approach operating from within the centres, you are more likely to be relocated to another group within the same location. This may be at your request/application or management whim as staffing needs dictate.


$250,000 what a joke. Maybe it's a new income stream for ASA, actually get trainees into the under resourced college, under-train them, jerk them around and watch as they line up at the bank for a $250,000 loan.
What a crock. Whilst I have no idea what the actual $bond is, how could it be considered an income stream?? If the trainee fails during the Academy course or fails to rate on job, then no bond is payable.

ratc2009, just curious, but from what level of experience do you make your assertions?

jrbridge 17th Aug 2009 10:15

ratc2009 care to enlighten us? Not sure what your angle is.

cbradio 17th Aug 2009 11:22

sorry ratc, I should never have doubted you.

Although asking if the tower was located on Tower Road did throw me a bit.

How about letting us in on what boring sector you are/are going to be working so we can make sure we are on the adjacent one to you.


and giving you an idea whats behind ASA.
probably a good idea to leave that to people who have some idea! :ok:

YankATC 19th Aug 2009 08:02

I'm here from the US, start school on 14 September and I had to sign a 5 year bond. Which really makes sense since they paid for containers for my family's belongings and everything else included in getting us here.

gemmy 19th Aug 2009 10:56

So how much is the 5 yr bond? 70k or 250k....been told 2 different amounts over these posts.


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