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roulette 15th Jul 2012 06:22

The RAAF might take you on, but not necessarily as an ATC... but worth following up.
Airservices used to have short-course MIL ATC conversion courses (on the presumption you were coming from the RAAF). Not sure if that is still the case, but in any case if you're already licensed as MIL ATC that would ordinarily be taken into consideration and would surpass "new school leaver type" fundamental qualification requirements. So, don't despair. Suggest you also try to speak to people over the telephone rather than simply trying to chase via email.

5miles 16th Jul 2012 10:47

JaeJae r.e overtime - h#ll yes we do. Its paid at 1.97 (or 1.87) of your normal pay rate,
Actually 1.85

Pauloswindon 16th Jul 2012 18:19

Roulette, SpankyRooster.

Thanks for the info. Very helpful!

JaeJae 20th Jul 2012 05:21

Thats a great o/t rate.

Anyone else starting en-route September 17 in Melbourne?

Or anyone know of any accomodation close to the centre?

Code89 20th Jul 2012 08:06

My application Current status has changed to "Application Outcome", is it good or bad?:confused:

canadiangal75 20th Jul 2012 08:17

I'm guessing you'll get an email or a phone call soon. Good luck with the outcome.. Mine still says online tests completed...

Code89 23rd Jul 2012 01:41

got the email as unsuccessful..... i guess its plan B till 30 Apr 2013 (11:55pm) Aus. Eastern Standard Time

anyway i would like to thank everyone in this forum for guiding me as well as members who shared their knowledge and experiences.:ok:


TOUCH-AND-GO 23rd Jul 2012 04:47

got the email as unsuccessful..... i guess its plan B till 30 Apr 2013 (11:55pm) Aus. Eastern Standard Time
Sorry to hear, wish you all the best for the future though! Did you go through the Assessment phase? How was it?

I recently sent my application few days back, any idea on what the time frame is to expect a response?

Thanks T&G! :ok:

Code89 24th Jul 2012 00:18

went till the assessment, exhaustive day carry some pain killers incase you develop a headache (as i did). i now realize there was nothing i could prepare for the day as once your there everythings so fast that things just have to be second nature. i almost had a month between each response so yes the process is long, i applied in FEB results in JUL

yes i have asked for the feedback and certainly will re-apply since i have promised the lady in the phone interview that i would and i dont like to break promises;)
i guess now i have a year to transform myself from a NON-ATC person to a ATC person. just need to know is the process same and will i be starting right from the begining?

anyway thanks for the advice, appreciate it


barberwi 25th Jul 2012 09:48

Hey guys,

I just completed my online assessment, i thought it went pretty well, although was tricky in some parts.

My main concern about getting through, is that i have a DUI conviction (not criminal) about 4 years ago (when i was 19), does this rule me out automatically?
I have gone through the process and undertaken the courses to get my licence back and have been scotch free since (lesson learnt). I have a PPL and class 2 medical and go for the occasional flight.

shack87 27th Jul 2012 13:52

hey guys,
I was just offered a spot on the enroute course in melbourne, starting january 7th, and found out from the lady I spoke with, that they don't have any more brisbane courses planned.
Also have a quick question for those who have been to the training centre in melb. What's the easiest wayyy to travel there? Car, bus train? It would be good to know if a car is essential there or not!

ReefToppy 27th Jul 2012 23:09

Car very essential

stevep64 28th Jul 2012 00:08

Reeftoppy is right. The Airservices compound is on the opposite side of the airport to the terminals, in the middle of nowhere :)

One of the guys in my intake lives in Tullamarine and cycles to work, but it's a hell of a ride, especially with the wind blowing straight down Operations Road.

Airservices will pay for accommodation at the Quest Flemington for your first week. You'll need to find somewhere to live in that time if you're moving to Melbourne.

Fifi-J 28th Jul 2012 06:36

first week assessment
Hey guys,
Im starting the enroute course on Monday - does anyone know how far into the first week they test your pre-course knowledge? I haven't even started yet and I'm studying my ass off... :{

stevep64 28th Jul 2012 07:11

We did it on the Monday of the second week, other courses did theirs on the Friday of the first week I believe. If they follow the same timetable as us, you'll be doing a whole day of online corporate induction on the first Friday :bored:

cadetkid 28th Jul 2012 09:29

Fifi, Ive been studying my ass off too :P Ive done everything except for the aerodynamics chapter now, which is what tomorrow is devoted to (leaving the biggest till last haha). Then throughout the week I can just keep refreshing myself on it so it all comes together for the day they test us.

television 28th Jul 2012 11:20

do not worry about the first test. it is almost meaningless. in fact a lot of the 8 weeks theory you will forget straight after. things like reading atis, ttf, notam etc, standard phraseology, airspace knowledge, the more you can know before sim the better.

shack87 28th Jul 2012 12:39

Did you guys get given some pre course study material? I was told we wouldn't get anything prior to our start date.

Fifi-J 28th Jul 2012 13:21

shack87 - we were mailed out a USB stick with a whole bunch of info and all the aviation reference manuals. There is a pre course study guide/suggestion you get as well, which gives you a guideline on what to read up on and familiarise yourself with before you start. Word of warning - if you choose to get it all printed out and bound into the seperate manuals it will cost you close to $300! Theres around 2800 pages :s
I got mine about 3/4 weeks ago and I start on monday (enroute)

Fatty182 28th Jul 2012 20:13

I only printed out the pages mentioned in the study guide, which in some cases, was like 10% of an entire chapter :P Plus I did it at work, so it didn't cost me anything fortunately!

All the previous comments are correct, the initial test is just to gauge where people are at and who might need a little extra help in the theory block, and they reteach everything over the first 8 weeks anyway. One person on our course never looked at the pre material, barely looked at the books at the college, and still passed :P Not saying that's the way to do it, just an indication :P

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