...and apparently all employees have access to a gym...

Well yes, if I go down the road to the David Lloyds and pay lots of money each month, but I don't think that's what they meant?

Wonder where we are now?

The wouldn't be daft enough to enter this year...based on top 20 takes into account terms and conditions, pension...pay ...:E:E:E

I so wish they would!! All part of the overall strategy - get a top 20 ranking and then put the hammer down. All ATCO's are 20% overpaid apparently, that says a lot for our chances of a pay rise then. :mad: I heard that there is now a work in progress to get valid no-ops back to the opsrooms too.

We're not even in the top 100 this year - how the mighty have fallen :}

Sounds about right to me! :ok:

However, according to the Times article - linked on the intranet, we have a World Beating boss in PB.

It's amazing how facts can be presented in such a misleading way that it makes certain individuals sound good.

Anotherthing, what did you think of the line where when asked about not for profit the idiot answered "you sound like one of my controllers"?

Unless he owns the company we are def not HIS controllers!!

I have had the pleasure of meeting him twice outside of work and when introduced to him as one of his "workers" he didnt even have the decency to acknowledge me, prize @@@@hole

Quote; 'a World Beating boss in PB.'

World beating or top-sheet tapping?

At the risk of incurring the wrath of many... As a company you voted 'yes' to the pension plan. That was the one thing you all said you would not stand for. I think you can now expect the worse to come.:(

NATS suck, the management have sold the troops down the river, what a surprise. I left NATS and my former colleagues tell me what a great move that was, the only ones who think it is a great company is the management or the brown nosers who desperately want to be part of management. Ask the Controllers, Assistants and the Engineers if it is a fantastic company and you will get a different answer. :ugh:

I am a T&S and - no it is not a good company to work for. I am far from being new to the 'organisation'; term used loosley of course. :suspect:

A lot of NATS people are ex RAF, maybe that is the key! When you are being selected NATS shows a professional face, niot Etap... Things had improved in NATS and it was a good company to work for, not anymore! But having said that its probably a couple of points up on dangerous places with lost of sand.

I'm with you there, mmmike, (well, I have yet to get an offer but I'd love one - still waiting for s2 results now)... coming from outside the industry it's easy to see how good it is in NATS (or at least to guess). Try working in the city where I am now if you think things are miserable there!

From the aforementioned Times article anyone would think PB was/is the saviour of NATS.

Our "owners" aren't happy, we the staff certainly aren't happy - who or what exactly has he saved us from and for who's benefit?

Oddly, I don't think the article (which was incidentally a genius piece of self-promotion and sure to see a certain person move on to an even cushier number post-NATS) clarified that.....though I did see the word profit mentioned.

NATS has improved significantly over the last few years.
Recently it's hit a brick wall and it recoiling backwards

A lot of what is good about the company, as viewed from the outside, are the benefits, supposed career progression and the way the work is done (probably some good processes dare I say!). I'm afraid to say 1) I feel these tend to be skewed towards certain types of individual and areas of the organisation 2) they're diminishing 3) the morale has dropped and there appears to be more management interferrance at the moment which doesn't bode well for the long term 4) correct me if I'm wrong, but I get the impression some of the processes aren't being followed - people progress because those with power like them, not because they're the best to do their new roles - that may be a more locailsed issue though.


5) yes there is also rivlarly between Operations and Development/Admin but that's more fault of communications and is also skweed on this board.