Originally Posted by Gingers Have Souls
(Post 10497716)
Got all excited as I had an email from NATS after completing stage 3.. Turns out it’s just a feedback survey! Once again: good luck to everyone waiting! The day is coming closer ;) |
Hey guys,
Did you also notice in the Candidates Pre-Learning booklet that the Manchester Area Control Centre (MACC) does not appear on the list of control centres operated in Prestwick? The relevant NATS webpage still mentions it: http://www.nats.aero/about-us/what-w...ntrol-centres/ So did the earlier version of the Candidates Pre-Learning booklet.As for the interview and the knowledge test, I think it’s safe to stick to the latest version of the booklet.But it would be interesting to find out if MACC has been merged with the Scottish Area Control Centre (ScACC). Does anybody know about it? |
Originally Posted by OH_OBS
(Post 10501154)
Hey guys,
Did you also notice in the Candidates Pre-Learning booklet that the Manchester Area Control Centre (MACC) does not appear on the list of control centres operated in Prestwick? The relevant NATS webpage still mentions it: http://www.nats.aero/about-us/what-w...ntrol-centres/ So did the earlier version of the Candidates Pre-Learning booklet.As for the interview and the knowledge test, I think it’s safe to stick to the latest version of the booklet.But it would be interesting to find out if MACC has been merged with the Scottish Area Control Centre (ScACC). Does anybody know about it? |
Originally Posted by Niki86
(Post 10502340)
I believe that Prestwick operates the area down to around Birmingham, which would include MACC.
The reason for the confusion is the fact that the new pre-learning booklet simply does not mention MACC, whereas the previous booklet did. I noticed exactly the same thing and wasn’t sure what to conclude, but in the description of ScACC it now mentions North of England etc. which previously fell under MACC, so I suspect it wasn’t an accidental omission. |
MACC no longer exists as a "physical" unit. The ex MACC sectors are now based at Prestwick centre and the RT callsign is Scottish control. Whether the ex MACC sectors are managed within Prestwick as a separate entity or not, I don't know and I don't think that level of knowledge would be expected from a candidate for a trainee place.
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Originally Posted by mike current
(Post 10502462)
MACC no longer exists as a "physical" unit. The ex MACC sectors are now based at Prestwick centre and the RT callsign is Scottish control. Whether the ex MACC sectors are managed within Prestwick as a separate entity or not, I don't know and I don't think that level of knowledge would be expected from a candidate for a trainee place.
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Anyone else on the October Jerez course? Is there a WhatsApp group going?
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Has anyone got any tips on learning the last section on the pre-learning document?
I've learnt everything else but struggling to get the last section to stick :( |
How long have you got to learn it?
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I've got a couple of days to get it to stick.... been trying out the major system to memorise but that's not really helped
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Originally Posted by taybz
(Post 10506553)
I've got a couple of days to get it to stick.... been trying out the major system to memorise but that's not really helped
First off I wouldn't worry too much about recalling every little piece of info about the aircraft, especially at this stage in the process. During my stage 3 (admittedly the older process) I didn't have to recall any actual aircraft info, but a basic understanding of the main manufacturer models helped very slightly. However, competent knowledge of the other information in the booklet was extremely useful. That being said I didn't know this before hand so revised the final few pages by grouping aircraft into flight levels and cruising speeds which helped. I made a set of very basic graphs for FLs (aircraft on the x-axis and FL on the y-axis), on this I could add basic other info too and as I'm a very visual learner I became able to recall the image in my head when needed. Capacity numbers are so variable in the real world, so long as you have an idea of the difference between the smaller narrow body aircraft (e.g. B737's/A320s...) and larger wide body (e.g. B777s/A380...) this may come in useful. As for routes and companies I honestly didn't worry too much, again just knowing that the European carriers are likely to use smaller aircraft and the international carriers larger may be useful but I'd be amazed if any of this information turns into a deal breaker so long as you're showing the right attributes in other areas. Anyway best of luck with the day and maybe we'll cross paths in the future! TC |
Thank you Topcat47... although the new one isn't as complicated as the old one... I need to know aircraft type, cruising level, speed, and destinations, thankfully they have simplified this section a little.
I like the graph idea I will try this, It may help with recall :) it's good to know they don't focus too much on this last section, takes the stress out of it a little Thanks, hope our paths do cross :) |
Originally Posted by taybz
(Post 10506822)
Thank you Topcat47... although the new one isn't as complicated as the old one... I need to know aircraft type, cruising level, speed, and destinations, thankfully they have simplified this section a little.
I like the graph idea I will try this, It may help with recall :) it's good to know they don't focus too much on this last section, takes the stress out of it a little Thanks, hope our paths do cross :) Anyone here in Jerez? What’s the aircraft recognition section on the basic like out there? The one we did was 50 planes and a lot to take in but that’s the basic course I suppose! |
Has anyone received any news yet from the new Stage 3's? Good or bad...
I was in the second group on 10th June, so approaching the 30 days now. |
Originally Posted by MattPudzilla
(Post 10506997)
Has anyone received any news yet from the new Stage 3's? Good or bad...
I was in the second group on 10th June, so approaching the 30 days now. The only correspondence I’ve received is the survey email. |
Well at least I'm not the only one!
Did they give you any info on how you would be notified? The last system was a call for yes and just an email for no. |
Originally Posted by MattPudzilla
(Post 10507006)
Well at least I'm not the only one!
Did they give you any info on how you would be notified? The last system was a call for yes and just an email for no. They did ask me and the rest of the group to write our email address on a document at the very beginning of the day. The only way they’ll get hold of my phone number is by checking the CV I attached all the way at the very start of the process. So with that in mind I think it will be an email. Would be ideal to hear soon tbh. |
Originally Posted by idloveit
(Post 10507013)
i honestly can’t recall accurately. They just said you’ll hear from us in 30 days. They did ask me and the rest of the group to write our email address on a document at the very beginning of the day. The only way they’ll get hold of my phone number is by checking the CV I attached all the way at the very start of the process. So with that in mind I think it will be an email. Would be ideal to hear soon tbh. When did you sit yours? Make sure to update us if you hear anything! |
Originally Posted by MattPudzilla
(Post 10507020)
Well, If your Stage 3 was before mine, that means we'll both know for sure by the 10th, so 9 days... :S
When did you sit yours? Make sure to update us if you hear anything! |
Originally Posted by idloveit
(Post 10507028)
mine was the week before yours. No news is good news so they say.. Ah right, so you should be finding out in the next couple of days? Yeah I suppose so! It will be what it will be, you gonna try again if you don't get through this time? |
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