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keving 9th Oct 2016 23:13

Hello everyone,

I booked stage 2 for the 15th of November. Anyone scheduled for the same day?

I have seen people asking over and over again what to expect from stage 2 but apparently I did not manage to find a proper answer following their questions. Could anyone who took part to a stage to provide me with some useful information please?

Thanks so much.

saisay 11th Oct 2016 01:55

The most useful information is to study the booklet they send you, and arrive on time. The rest will be explained to you on the day.

LACJA 11th Oct 2016 15:00

Stage 3
 
Hi Can anyone who has done stage 3 tell me what both the competency based and the technical interview is like, what type of questions did they ask?
Thanks

MNAsantos 12th Oct 2016 23:44

Well, we can only give certain tips. Be calm and be honest! If you are unsure about something, tell them you are and give an answer for the question (remember to explain everything in a short by rich way, this way you will have time to answer everything).

mich_65 18th Oct 2016 08:29

Hi guys,

I'm gonna have the stage 2 tests on the 26th this month.
I passed all FEAST, DART and multi-pass with AustroControl two weeks ago but ****** up the interview.
Did anyone pass those before and applied for NATS and didn't have to do them again?
Also is it necessary to know all the speeds, altitudes etc. for the first test? I know many of them but don't wanna go there too stressed :-(

The ones who still have to do their tests wish you all good luck with them!!

storey23 19th Oct 2016 08:58


Originally Posted by mich_65 (Post 9544537)
Hi guys,

I'm gonna have the stage 2 tests on the 26th this month.
I passed all FEAST, DART and multi-pass with AustroControl two weeks ago but ****** up the interview.
Did anyone pass those before and applied for NATS and didn't have to do them again?
Also is it necessary to know all the speeds, altitudes etc. for the first test? I know many of them but don't wanna go there too stressed :-(

The ones who still have to do their tests wish you all good luck with them!!

Hi mich_65


I did my stage 2 about 1 month ago.


A guy at my assessment had also done a FEAST and DART test recently. He actually got taken out of the assessment day as you are not allowed to take these tests within 2 years of each other.


I don't think you will be allowed to do it. I would definitely double check as you may well be wasting your time

mich_65 20th Oct 2016 07:55


Originally Posted by storey23 (Post 9545679)
Hi mich_65


I did my stage 2 about 1 month ago.


A guy at my assessment had also done a FEAST and DART test recently. He actually got taken out of the assessment day as you are not allowed to take these tests within 2 years of each other.


I don't think you will be allowed to do it. I would definitely double check as you may well be wasting your time

Hi storey23,

I can't apply with AustroControl ever again and I couldn't apply with another company if I would've failed those tests. But I passed them and they only didn't take me because of a reason that doesn't have to do with the job.
I've also spoken with eurocontrol and they confirmed that. I just can't do it with them because I will be over 25 when the course starts next year.

Would still be nice if someone else could state similar experiences?

Thanks :-)

mich_65 20th Oct 2016 11:17

Forgot to ask, I assume that guy failed the tests before?

Megamc 20th Oct 2016 13:26


Originally Posted by mich_65 (Post 9546949)
Forgot to ask, I assume that guy failed the tests before?

Hi Mich_65,

Can you send me a PM or email?

Mc

Happyfeet92 20th Oct 2016 17:38

FEAST/DART
 
Hey guys,
I am new to PPRuNe and thought I should post in this thread, I am about to send off my ATCO application to NATS and Eurocontrol but have heard that you can only take DART/ FEAST test once every 2 years, so if I take this test for the Eurocontrol application process, does that mean I will not be able to take it for my application to NATS or vice versa? :ugh:

mich_65 21st Oct 2016 07:51


Originally Posted by Happyfeet92 (Post 9547367)
Hey guys,
I am new to PPRuNe and thought I should post in this thread, I am about to send off my ATCO application to NATS and Eurocontrol but have heard that you can only take DART/ FEAST test once every 2 years, so if I take this test for the Eurocontrol application process, does that mean I will not be able to take it for my application to NATS or vice versa? :ugh:

Hey,
If you have for example the Eurocontrol test first and pass and in the end prefer to go on with NATS or Eurocontrol doesn't take you in the end there is no problem.
If you fail those tests with any of them you need to wait two years. Then you have one opportunity to repeat them.
:-) Good luck

ATC_Hustl 25th Oct 2016 10:00

Hey guys,


Could anyone provide any information on whether this new Multi control test is included in the FEAST 2 part except from the DART ?


Kind regards

Flamin_Squirrel 27th Oct 2016 12:07

I passed the written test and FEAST yesterday... but got the dreaded email this morning saying I'd failed DART.

If anyone's got ideas for other interesting aviation related careers (I have a mechanical engineering background, but not aviation related) please let me know. Sigh.

storey23 1st Nov 2016 15:44


Originally Posted by mich_65 (Post 9546949)
Forgot to ask, I assume that guy failed the tests before?

No, he passed..

saisay 2nd Nov 2016 18:55


Originally Posted by Flamin_Squirrel (Post 9557776)
I passed the written test and FEAST yesterday... but got the dreaded email this morning saying I'd failed DART.

If anyone's got ideas for other interesting aviation related careers (I have a mechanical engineering background, but not aviation related) please let me know. Sigh.

Look on the bright side, at least you can apply again in a couple of years if ATC is still something that interests you.

I had my medical recently and found out I'm slightly colourblind, so I'm out for good.

Flamin_Squirrel 2nd Nov 2016 19:54

Aww so sorry to hear that, especially as you did so well to be one of the 1 in 100 or so to get through. I guess it's only a bright side for me if I get through the second time!

I originally wanted to be a professional pilot, but I can only get a Class 2 medical (so I'm OK for ATC and private flying, but not commercial) so I know how it feels. That said, I honestly think not getting through these tests hurts more than being told I can't fly professionally; feeling like a failure isn't nice.

I felt FEAST was fine for me. Because of the number of questions in each section, you get a chance to get into the swing of it. DART ramps up in difficulty so quickly I didn't realise how much I needed to plan ahead before it was too late.

Can you tell me what multi-pass like in comparison?

The Many Tentacles 3rd Nov 2016 08:28

Have you checked the part about the medical with NATS as I believe their requirements are more stringent than the CAA ones for an ATCO, or they were last time I really paid attention to them

saisay 3rd Nov 2016 11:02


Originally Posted by Flamin_Squirrel (Post 9565133)
Aww so sorry to hear that, especially as you did so well to be one of the 1 in 100 or so to get through. I guess it's only a bright side for me if I get through the second time!

I originally wanted to be a professional pilot, but I can only get a Class 2 medical (so I'm OK for ATC and private flying, but not commercial) so I know how it feels. That said, I honestly think not getting through these tests hurts more than being told I can't fly professionally; feeling like a failure isn't nice.

I felt FEAST was fine for me. Because of the number of questions in each section, you get a chance to get into the swing of it. DART ramps up in difficulty so quickly I didn't realise how much I needed to plan ahead before it was too late.

Can you tell me what multi-pass like in comparison?

Without wanting to give too much away, the multipass does require planning ahead and a lot of multitasking, though once you get a rhythm going everything generally runs quite smoothly. Everyone on the day seemed to find it easier than the DART.

And The Many Tentacles is right, you need a European Class 3 medical certificate for ATC (at least with NATS). If you can only get a Class 2, you might be in the same boat as me.

ZOOKER 3rd Nov 2016 12:26

Unless it's changed recently, a Class 2 Medical is more stringent than a Class 3. Class 1 is the highest standard.
When I started, the ATCO requirement in The U.K. was Class 1, for both NATS and non-NATS ATCOs. The was the same as for a commercial pilot, but with slightly more leniency with regards to the frequency of re-examination.
I think the change to a Class 3 for ATCOs came during the mid-2000s?

saisay 3rd Nov 2016 12:52

If that's the case, this whole thing is a bit confusing. My report says I'm fit for EASA Class 1 and 2, fit for UK Class 1 but unfit for European Class 3. Maybe European Class 3 is more strict only on the colour vision requirements?


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