trainee salaries
 

Hi everyone here
If anyone get any info on trainee salaries? I have read on adverts that its circa £17k, but when reading these posts I’m not too sure any more!

Is It about to change with the new pay deal.

Salary while at CATC will be about £10,000, with a modest living allowance.

On leaving the college sucessfully it will rise to £15,000 and then £16,000 a year later.
thanks

10k at college, no living allowance
15-18k when posted to unit (depending on unit)
19k on 2nd anniversary of joining NATS
25-29k(plus shift allowance) when you validate (if b4 3 years)
46k (plus shift) when validated AND 3 years service (this is for highest band units)

I think that's all correct but it's from memory. You can always call HR and aks - they're the peeps in the know;)

As a current trainee I can confirm the the salary is £10,000 PA, with no living allowance.

This equates to a monthly wage of approx £650, with the average B&B costing £400 a month, and flat shares costing £300 a month, you don't end up with much left over.

and what if the trainee has to support his family?
i wonder if NATS provides any help for this..:rolleyes:

its aimed to reward those who get through the course and validate to become a useful and productive controller.
A trainee at the college on £10k who HAS to buy food, pay rent, get to the college etc etc There is now no paid trips home, so if thre is a trainee with a family then he will be going home every weekend - part of the responsibilty of being a parent.
I meant U may have wife/husband/kids/mortgage and 10k a year will not be financially viable.

2006
 

When I sat my Stage1 in Oct '06, the nice ATCO speaker at the end was holding this .... but there must be a 2007 version flapping around somewhere.

If you are not happy with living on THAT you could either:

A> get a part-time job at the weekend [maybe even at Bournemouth airport... maybe, even be cheeky and be an assistant in the tower] and make T!
B> apply to HSBC for a proffessional studies loan
C> defer, work somewhere NOW to earn so that you can live a better life whilst training!

...But IMHO what they give you WILL suffice, [that is, if not having to support a family of dependants]

... I've spent 4 silly years at Uni, and 10K for a student is a NICE life I can tell ya!

EGMC

Sadly they don't.

While you are at the college, you will find the money situation very tight.

I am not coping very well with it...I think the bank manager would quite agree ;)

If you don't have any money saved up for a rainy day, like I didn't then it will be very tight. (I'm just glad I have the parents as a back up plan - not that I have had to use them yet, but they are there just in case ;) )

At Eurocontrol it's like this:
Phase 1 (theoretical part) ~1240 eur basic + 600 eur daily allowance
Phase 2 (simulator in Lux) ~1500 eur basic + some daily allowance for a while but still in total less than in the first 3 months
Phase 3 (Maastricht familirization) ~2300 eur basic
Phase 4 (OJT) same as Phase 3 + shift allowance

The values are netto after tax and for an expatriate. For a Dutch it's 16% less in the NL.

Ok

say you've completed your NATS college phase and you are off to an unit for further training.

Will your training be on a shift pattern, and therefore allow for shift pay, or you will still be on a college shift, say Mon to Fri, until you validate ?

Or, perhaps, you are on a shift pattern, but with no shift pay ? :ouch:

Thank you

sadly this is now the case. the basic salary does go up (£18k at LACC or LTCC I believe), however, until you validate there is no unsociable hours payment. I believe the money is going towards an upcoming NATS initiative... Destinations 2: The Return Ticket.

l39,

Sorry, not sure what you mean here. Are you advocating that those with families should get paid more?

Well Gonzo,
In my opinion there should be such support. I am not thinking about who’s gonna be paid more or less. I am not the person in the position of taking such decisions.
But as I said it was according to me and if it’s up to me I would support young parents -trainee. A lot of reasons for that.
Sorry if I misled you somehow

Can you explain your, to my mind, curious idea that if you chose to have a family early then your employer should assist you in supporting that particular choice?

BD

Also depends what one means by 'support'. Trainees,as with anyone in NATS, can call on either Employee Assistance, or the independent company Validum (Valium? Something like that!) for Advice and support. Or were you talking about monetary support? I have to say I'd be a bit hacked off if there were two different pay scales, one 'with child', one 'without'.

Be thankful you're getting paid at all.

Nav Canada's trainees have the pleasure of paying for their testing, pre-course package and tuition which I believe is something like $5500 for and IFR student before the start day one in the IFR training unit.........and don't get paid anything until they have finished in the school.

Not trying to be an asshole (it does come naturally though), I'm just stating fact.

So as the idea is curious- if you were the employer why wouldn’t you help?
As for the choice –sometimes you don’t plan it.
Anyway, I just wanted to get info what a trainee is supposed to face

It's a sad state of affairs when you start to pre-empt the insults.... :p

Once again, just stating facts mate :ouch:


;)

Discrimination on lifestyle choice.
In this day and age, with all of the contraception methods available? shurely shome mishtake.

BD

On 10K you would be entitled to income support if you have dependant children.