Originally Posted by vintage ATCO
(Post 3080189)
I think they spelt it Tibbit. I still see Tibbit 11.
EDIT: Just had a quick look Here and it gives "TIBBET" for Hatfield. Ah well, pretty close, either way. |
IIRC 'Tibbet 22' was John Cunningham in the mid sixties.
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Merlin is the C/S now used by the RR Spitfire (despite being Griffon powered!)
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Apologies for thread drift but I recollect we used "Hanair" at Radlett on test flying.
Eeeeek!!! - 40 years ago! FW |
Newpin is definitely still in use by Raytheon at Hawarden. I believe Tarnish is still used at Warton? Yeovil's callsign Judwin Tower (still in use?) is not geographical but is Westland's prefix dating back to WW2. (Source: Air-Britain)
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No longer in use - it's now Westland Tower, Approach etc
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The other callsign to be heard for Warton-based BAE a/c is "FELIX".
The 146's of BAE's Corporate Air Travel (CAT) Dept. use it, what humourous chaps :ok: |
Trident Northeast
That's right, they did use the callsign 'Norjet'.
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Old British airline callsigns
Mooncrest, as a more "senior member", I have just come across my original issue UK Air Pilot, which I am ashamed to say has remained unamended since about 1969!
However, within the COM Section at Appendix 9 is a list of "Telegraphy and Radiotelephony Abbreviations (for) Aircraft Operating Agencies". The page is dated 26.1.68. Here is the gist of it - it may be of interest ... Airborne Aviation Services (Gatwick) Ltd / YI / - Air Couriers Ltd / QU / MESSENGER Air Ferry, Ltd / LK / AIR FERRY Air Links Ltd / IK / - Air London / MI / - Airwork Services Training / - / AIRWORK Atlas Air Express / LS / - Autair International Airways Ltd / OU / AUTAIR Automobile Association / - / FANUM Aviation Charter Enterprises Ltd / FC / - B.A.C. (Filton Division) / OF / - Bedfordshire Air Centre Ltd / - / BEDSAIR Bees Flight,Ltd, / BF / BUMBLE B.K.S. Air Transport, Ltd / BK / BEEKAYESS Bristol Siddeley Engines Ltd / BT / - Britannia Airways Ltd / BY / BRITANNIA British Eagle International Airlines Ltd / EG / EAGLE British European Airways Corporation / BE / BEALINE British Insulated Callenders Cables Ltd / BC / BICAL British Midland Airways Ltd / BD / BRITISH MIDLAND British Overseas Airways Corporation / BA / SPEEDBIRD British United Airways / BR / BRITISH UNITED British United Air Ferries Ltd / VF / BRITISH UNITED British United (C.I.), Ltd / JY / BRITISH UNITED Bristow Helicopters, Ltd / - / BRISTOW British United (Manx) Airways / NX / - Business Aircraft Users Association, Ltd / - / BIZAIR Caledonian AIrways Ltd / CA / CALEDONIAN Cambrian Airways, Ltd / CS / CAMBRIAN Cardinal Air Taxis Ltd / KG / CARDINAL Channel Airways Ltd / CW / CHANNEL AIR Civil Aviation Flying Unit / MC / MINAIR Club Aviation (Cheltenham), Ltd / - / CHELTHAM Chartair Ltd / - / CHARTAIR Dan-Air Services, Ltd / DA / DANAIR Don Everall (Aviation), Ltd / ER / EVERALL Duncan Logan (Contractors), Ltd / DU / LOGANAIR Dunlop Rubber Co., Ltd (Aviation Division) / DP / DUNLOP Emerald Airways Ltd / EF / - E. Raffles and Co. Ltd / - / RAFFLES E.S. and A. Robinson / RL / - Executive Air Transport Ltd / EZ / EXECUTIVE Executive (Handling) Services Ltd Gatwick / YE / - Fairey Air Surveys Ltd / FY / - Ferranti Ltd / FB / - Field Aircraft Services Ltd / FS / - Flight Refuelling Ltd / FR / TANKAIR Granada TV Network Ltd / GD / GRANADA Gregory Air Services Ltd / GZ / GREGAIR Herts. and Essex Aero Club, Ltd / HZ / HARTEX Hunting Surveys Ltd / HG / - International Helicopters Ltd / - / SKYCRANE Invicta Airways Ltd / IM / - Iraq Petroleum Co. Ltd / - / IPC King Aviation Ltd / - / KINGAVIA Laker Airways Ltd / GK / LAKER Lloyd International Airways Ltd / LW / - Manchester Airport Agencies / MJ / - Manx Airlines, Ltd / - / MANXMAN Marshalls' Flying Services, Ltd / MF / MARSHALL McVitie & Price. Ltd / - / MCVITIE Morton Air Services, Ltd / MT / MORTON Northern Air Taxis Ltd / NT / NORTHAIR North Sea Air Transport, Ltd / NS / NORSEA Nuclear Power Group / NP / NUPOWER Plymouth Aero Club, Ltd / PL / PLYFLY Pressed Steel Co., Ltd (Aviation Division) / PX / PRESTAIR Royal Air Force / - / RAFAIR Royal Navy / - / NAVAIR Sir Alfred McA1pine & Sons Ltd / - / MCALPINE Skycabs / - / SKYCABS Sky Charters Ltd / JE / - Skyfame Ltd / - / SKYFAME Skyways, Ltd / SY / SKYWAY Skywork Ltd / - / AIRMOVE Southend Municipal Flying School / SM / SCOFLY Starways. Ltd / WY / STARWAYS Surrey and Kent Flying Club Ltd / - / KENTAIR Swift Travel Services Ltd / SS / - The Air Taxi Operators Association Ltd / - / TAXAIR The Rank Organisation Ltd / - / RANKJET Tradair / TQ / TRADAIR Trans Meridian Flying Services Ltd / TO / TRANS MERIDIAN Treffield International Airways Ltd (Formerly Treffield Aviation Ltd) / TJ / (1) TREFFIELD (2) SKYFRATE United Biscuit Co Ltd / - / YOOBEE United Steel Companies Ltd / UZ / UNISTEEL Universal F1ying Services, Ltd / UF / UNIFLY Westair Flying Services Ltd / - / CESSNAIR Western Airways, Ltd / WN / WESTWAY Wiltshire School of Flying. Ltd / WS / AEROWILT Yorkshire Flying Services Ltd / - / YORKAIR Jumbo Driver :) |
Thanks, Jumbo Driver, certainly is of interest! Quite a memory-jerker, not least of which brings back memories of lugging around that Jan 68 big red Air Pilot during my Primary Course at Hurn.....and the memory of the consecutive sections of it: AGA/COM/MET/RAC/FAL/SAR/MAP/GEN. Sad.....or what......and used to fly in 'Minair Fox Tango' during the lunchbreaks.....
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...and I've just found the Radio Facilities Chart (11.1.68) ... There are NDB's at Hurn and Fawley, a VDF at Southampton and Hamble (sigh), and a VOR at Ibsley ... Oh, and I see Heathrow has 5 operational runways ... 05L/23R, 05R/23L, 10L/28R, 10R/28L and 15R/33L ... ... not many airways - but fan markers simply everywhere ... Jumbo Driver :) |
Don't bin it!
Fans? Compton, Haslemere, Beacon Hill, Chertsey, Matching, Woburn, Outers, Middles, Inners, fahsands of 'em.... Airways? Red 1, Green 1, Amber 1, Amber 2, Blue 1 (Used to be Green 2), White 39, et ceteraaa, a lot easier to remember than Upper Lima 866 and so on. The old props, Connies, and Seven Seas etc, used to whizz past the Southern ATCC (in Block 1) when landing 15R. I remember the approach lights were on telegraph poles.....not exactly 'frangible'........ The old sawn-off Runway 16 stopped in the Mikes, known as 'Waites Alley' after a certain Viscount's very abbreviated take-off run in fog one day..... |
I'll get my 1972 Half mil chart out - controlled airspace - what's that!
Air 2000 (First Choice AMM/DP) started with Air2000 as the c/s. I recall Air2000 262 which UK ATCO's just about coped with....not sure about the Europeans down Amber 34 though. Jetset soon followed. Maersk Air was not Birmex, but Blue Star - even though it was a white star on blue background. Not British, but I think CP Air had the best - "Empress":ok: |
Aberdeen Airways callsign was 'Grampian'
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GK430
Maersk Air (UK) Ltd did for a while operate as 'Birmex' prior to the change to 'Bluestar'. 'Whitestar' belonging to Star Air, now the only Maersk (AP Moller) airline, I believe.
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Wondered where you got to. Hope you found a hangar where they keep the doors firmly closed over the next few days:cool: 'Cause the temp is dropping. Used to communicate with you from across 15/33 but with a different handle or whatever they're called. Did you go at same time as duo? BHX ain't going nowhere - I gather Macquarie wanted to take the Council's 49% but it's back to the middle ages instead:ugh: |
Court Line used to use the 'Halcyon' call-sign.
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Court Line used to use the 'Halcyon' call-sign. |
CourtLine used "CourtLine", Halcyon xxxxx was the a/c name
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I'm with Va on the 'Halcyon' subject. It was used as an aircraft naming prefix. I can't honestly remember the matching colours but there were...'Halcyon nights'(I think purple). 'Halcyon breeze', (I think green), etc etc. It certainly was never used as an RTF callsign during my time at Luton. Courtline were unusual in that they didn't use trip numbers on the RTF, they filed them in item 18 of the flightplan but actually operated under individual aircraft registrations. I was at Luton from 74-89 but Va beats me by miles and probably has a much better memory! :)
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