Scottish Frequency Mis-dials
In the last few weeks there have been several instances of high level traffic calling Scottish on Liverpool Tower freq 126.350. For example, last night at about 2200 Lufthansa 41ER came on frequency. I told him he was on the wrong one and to revert to previous. Maybe it would be better to continue to say this, but can anyone from Scottish suggest what the correct one might be. I am assuming that it is probably one digit different from 126.350. It would obviously be more efficient to direct the culprit to the correct one.
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At night-time they sometimes bandbox Deancross sector onto the TMA frequency which is 126.3
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Problem not unknown at Swanwick.....the friendly factor!
"contact XXXX 123.4 bye"....sounds like... "contact XXXX 123.45" |
Thanks for th input guys! Maybe we can say something like "Try Scottish on 126.3, if no contact revert to previous frequency."
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It should be 126.350 and 123.450; haven't you guys in the arctic heard about 6 - digit frequencies?
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You suffering from heat stroke in the deep South Chevvron? Atcham correctly refers to Liv TWR freq as 126.350, and 055166k to 123.4 (no 5th digit, therefore no 6th digit required). He only says it sounds like 123.45 when uttering a cheery "get off my freq", and that is a pilot problem surely?
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6 digit freqs don't seem to have caught on. Still hear quite a few controllers saying it the old way, but hear even more pilots not giving a 6 digit readback. Sometimes instead of 131.125 we get thirty-one twelve read back. If everybody used the full 6 digits all the time, then the problem would disappear.
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we are a year ahead of the UK in six digits usage and 90% of ATC and 98% of pilots is back to 5 digits (perceived)
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Sorry, was at Craven Cottage to see Fulham beat Arsenal last night and I'm still suffering from shock.
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The Scottish Talla frequency is 126.3, yes we do bandbox Dean Cross Sector onto that frequency at night and yes the old "126.3 bye" might well be the problem.
Incidentally 126.3 is the correct phraseology - six digits are not required if the last two would be zeros. |
Thanks for confirming that Talla. It is hardly a major problem, more a slight irritant. Happened about three times to me recently and presumably to colleagues as well. Will spread the word!
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We had a similar situation about 5 years ago with high level stuff calling 'Scottish' on Gloster Approach freq 125.65. MOR'd it eventually and it was traced back to one particular ATCO, who kept giving the wrong freq...should have been 125.625 IIRC
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