LL controllers in SUN EFPS shocker
 

Nearly spat out my cornflakes this morning, reading a discraceful piece of journalism in The Sun about EFPS. Every word like CRASH or DISAPPEAR was in bold.

EFPS has been in use at Swanwick for many years now, is there really a problem at LL or is it just the Union trying to justify more pay?

Widger - read the story properly - its complete sun tosh. Controllers on over £100k?? A tower controller crashing A/C over the channel in training?? Christ TC area controllers rarely venture 'feet wet', never mind heathrow tower.

Another quality article that the great unwashed will beleive in it's entirety.
PS. when will Heathrow ever stop being the "World's Busiest Airport"? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World's_busiest_airports_by_traffic_movements has Heathrow at a lowly 15th.

I suppose it depends on what you mean by "busiest".


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World%2...senger_traffic


CTG.

Does this mean that you think that there are no concerns at Heathrow regarding the 13th of January? I mean, a new tower, on a new location, a new computer system and EFPS all on the same day? Never mind the quality of the newspaper, it is quite a lot isn't it?

Widger

Last time i looked at my paper flight strip board at Swanwick, EFPS wasn`t in

Well I think in this conext we're talking about the opportunities for controllers to create the inevitable, tragic carnage in the sky. ;)

Good luck. :eek:

Another thing,

I know it's complete Sun tosh....read my post carefully! The point is, no smoke without fire. Is this a case of not wishing to move with technology?

Floydie...

thats why there will be flow restrictions. The guys at heathrow are receiving training for all you mention. A new tower - so what. New location - so what. A new computer - the engineers should have tested that to the nth degree. EFPS - perhaps the biggest issue, but should still be OK once the guys and gals get used to it, even though it is a big change.

There will always be misgivings about change, but not to the scaremongering that piece of toilet paper dramatically reports.

Widger -

get some work done - we must be crossing posts!!

I don't think its a case of not wanting to embrace new technology... I thinlg its a case of the Current Bun not wanting to embrace true news.

From the sunonline
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006540489,00.html

Our whistleblower said: “Senior controllers aren’t just warning that there might be a mistake — they are insisting there WILL be a crash if this changeover goes ahead. These people are not militant union types who can’t handle change, they are the creme de la creme of air traffic control.
Its nice to see that they don't have any issues with their egos as well as their strips......:rolleyes:

creme de la creme? Must be true if it's in the Sun.

What, the sour stuff that always floats to the top?

So nothing to worry about eh? Everything is taken care of to everybody's satisfaction? Just another busy day at the office.

Bloody hell... some people want us taken back into the dark ages. It's not witchcraft you know!!:}

I know 'cause you're not witches are you? Cannot work magic though.

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While we're on the subject of news, does anyone here have any idea why there appears to be a news blackout regarding the successful introduction of SAATS at Prestwick. No staff notices, no warm congratulations from the GM, no headlines on NATSnet - what's going on????? For heavens sake Paul Barron letting off a silent one in his office usually makes it on to NATSnews!!!!

I've worked in ATC for over 25 years, and we've just had EFPS installed here at EGGW. I know we don't have the amount of traffic as EGLL, but then again we don't have the amount of staff or working positions either.
Yes I was sceptical and concerned about the change too, but I have to admit that the system does actually work. It does make life easier and quicker.
EGLL controllers are right to be worried about the change, but they will be surprised about how easy the system is to operate in the real world.
As for the assistants, they have nothing to do now. They are the ones who should be worried about its introduction.

Whats wrong with a chinagraph and pinboard?:ouch:

Just because NATS has units north of the M25 doesn't mean they deem them important or newsworthy. If you ain't one of the flagships then forget it.