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keel beam 1st Sep 2006 15:50

Aircraft tow - using strobes when crossing live runway
 
I recently was on the brakes of an aircraft tow. Part of the tow crossed a live runway (the tractor driver was in contact with ATC). As we started to cross the live runway, I switched the strobes on until we were clear, then switched them off. After the tow I was advised by the tractor driver that strobes were not used when crossing a live runway as he was in contact with ATC. My question is - what is the correct procedure for a towing aircraft crossing a live runway with regards to using, or not, strobes?

GT3 1st Sep 2006 15:53

I think (but will stand to be corrected) that Nav lights and rotating beacon are all that are required for aircraft under tow at night.

121,9_za 1st Sep 2006 16:44

I would also think that it would be a requirement, as they are supposed to tell you when they are towing a "dead" aircraft, i.e no lights. Will be interesting to see what the law says.

747-436 1st Sep 2006 16:54

What happens when the aircraft is being towed by a Tow Bar Less Tug, no one up in the cockpit to switch the strobes on.
My understanding is that the lights on the tug are enough for this sort of Operation.

This is a crisis 1st Sep 2006 17:22

I have not got the book in front of me but I believe the ANO requires that, at night, an aircraft under tow should display those lights it is required to display in flight - i.e. Nav Lights and a red anti-collision light if fitted. During the day there is no requirement.
The practice of displaying strobes when crossing or entering a runway has developed I think as a 'best practice' measure following the famous incident at EGLL when an aircraft made a very low go-around with one lined up. (I think the aircraft on final could not see the one on the threshold.
Certainly, where I work, if you give an aircraft line up clearance, just before they enter the runway most will activate white strobes. One particular operator will also switch them on when crossing any intermediate runway.

renard 2nd Sep 2006 17:09

On the Avro RJ series of aircraft, strobes work on a weight on wheels switch, and will not flash until the aircraft gets airborne.

This is a crisis 2nd Sep 2006 19:42

Come to think of it...I think it may have been an AAIB recmmendation following the EGLL incident that strobes should be displayed whilst on a runway....unfortunately, can't find the said report on the AAIB site.

keel beam 2nd Sep 2006 20:44

Thanks for the inputs on this. Just for info the Anti Col beacon was on and also the position lights.

loubylou 2nd Sep 2006 21:33

I don't believe that it's a requirement - however if you are crossing an active runway then by all means do as you did - anything that makes you look more visible in that scenario can only be to the good. I can't think of a single controller who is going to complain about you doing that

louby

tired 2nd Sep 2006 22:08

Pilot's viewpoint - loubylou is spot on, anything that makes you more visible is a Good Thing.

My company (UK longhaul) SOP require that we switch the strobes on anytime we are on, or cross, a runway. I'm under the impression that the CAA has made it mandatory for all G-reg aircraft, but I might be wrong. Even if correct, I'm not sure whether it would apply to a/c under tow.

But, whatever the law says, see point number 1 above........

IShotTheSherif 7th Sep 2006 09:24


Originally Posted by loubylou (Post 2820989)
I don't believe that it's a requirement - however if you are crossing an active runway then by all means do as you did - anything that makes you look more visible in that scenario can only be to the good. I can't think of a single controller who is going to complain about you doing that
louby

Exactly my sentiments.

I am all for what you did by switching the strobes on...


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