Bye Bye
 

Another strange bit of aviation language, like the 'Sir' thread. Out in the normal world, grown men (and women) take leave of each other by saying 'Goobye', 'Cheers' or 'Bye'. Why is it, then, that when we put headsets on, we all say 'Bye bye' as if we were two-year old toddlers?

R/T discipline in the New World...well, a shocker.

"bye bye" becomes "so long", "see ya", "have a great day"....:rolleyes:

Its because we need TLC and wrapping in cotton wool just lika a two year old does before they go to bed. ;)

I don't tend to call anyone "Sir" but I do say "Bye bye"! However, it is more of a "Bu-bye" rather than putting equal emphasis on both words.

"Goodbye" seems a little formal and "Cheers" (although a favourite of mine) is perhaps a little to casual, "Seeya", I'm sure, would make anyone cringe so "bye-bye" it is!

Cheers

Whirls

When I was operational it was usually "Good-day"..... but doesn't anyone remember "Chugalug" ??

Chugalug....

Wasn't that used by Dan-Air to get directs from Maastricht? I believe they had an agreement involving crates of beer:E ??

Quite disconcerting the way the Irish say 'Good luck'! They know something I don't??

There's nowt wrong with saying 'bye bye' as long as its Bob Holness type 'b-bye for now' rather than a Matthew Corbett 'bye bye kiddies, bye bye'. :E :E :E

"BYE bye?" C'mon guys this is a serious waste of bandwidth. Surely "bye" is the preferred mode unless you're in Sleepy Hollow. Same goes for the dreaded new six digit frequencies. Having to add that extra 0 or 5 when you're calling vacated and acknowledging frequency change to ground with the next guy behind you at 300ft waiting for a landing clearance seems like a gross waste of airtime.

Maybe all ground freqs should be tenths of MHz only?

NS

If you think THIS is a serious waste of bandwidth, try a trip to Jet Blast!

I like the comment about the Irish saying "Good Luck!" - I'm of Northern Irish parentage mesel' so I'll try that next time from N'arch

Cheers

Whirls

I've always said "Ba-bye!" to be honest.

However seeing as how civilian controllers treat military pilots on this forum, I may well say "Ta-ra f**k knuckle" in future.

Lets see how THAT goes down shall we?

QFI

Nah Gonzo, QFIHawkman is a well balanced chap; a chip on both shoulders!

Cheers

Whirls

Sorry but someone was gonna say it; might as well be me!

On the basis of QFIs post, a new procedure is required :ok:

Mil Controller: 'Request Cleared Flight Path (or Radar Corridor) for VYT XX please.'

Civvy controller: 'Negative, remain clear of my 10 tracks, we will be operating surface to FL450. Tell the pilot he's a f**k knuckle. All other mil aircraft callsigns, co-ordinated.'


:ok: :p

Although I had a minor formation of 9 of them on frequency the other day, I don't usually get to talk to many Hawks. However, I would like to give my total support for QFI Hawkman. As a polite and civil Civil Controller, I would say that "Ta-Ra f**k knuckle" should certainly go down in the annals of Aviation Folk Lore, and maybe even into the MATS Pt 1 Appendix E!

Nice one QFI! I'm sure you must impress your students immensely.

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Coming back from the UK last week on hand off i said good luck to the controler, to which he replied in a very genuine tone - "with what?".

Classic brits!

;)

hmmm, you'll just have to keep on wondering:) ;)

i always say bye bye when i'm changing from one controller to the next one.

if the controller says , EI-#$% contact 123.45.

i'll say .contact 123.45 #$% bye bye.

instead of , contact 123.45, switching frequency EI-#$% good day.

it's less formal and takes less time and let's him know i'm gone from his frequency.

:ok:

Looking to get a rise out of people QFI? I think you'll find that civvy ATC bends over backwards to help mil. pilots,even if we do give you grief on an internet forum for not listening out on frequency,dropping at 7000fpm to 1000 above coordinated civvy traffic setting off a TCAS alert,flying RIGHT up to the edge of the TMA leaving me twitching as to whether you'll turn away from my traffic or not,or whatever else has got me wound up this week. We work closely and effectively at ScOACC with our RAF colleagues to get you transits accross extremely busy aispace often at the cost of expedition of civilian traffic.Think about that the next time you route from Valley almost direct to Leuchars in your non RVSM aircraft at FL340.
Ta-ra f**k knuckle is good though! It would make me laugh anyway.

I must say I was quite impressed with some British Pilot the other day saying "Slan" on freq....For those of you not Irish, this means goodbye "as gaeilge" (in Irish)....

Think I'm gonna start diversifying and start saying "Adios" and "Salut" and "Cheerio old chap" (oh thats english!!!)

JR