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rafalbert 13th Jul 2005 14:20

Swanwick Training
 
Hi,

I am attending a course at Bournemouth commencing in September, and was wondering what the training process is at Swanwick post graduation. Is there a particular individual I would need to speak to gain this information to or with whom to possibly arrange a visit?

Many thanks,

Dave Hall

Arkady 13th Jul 2005 15:58

Dave, check your PMs

Number2 13th Jul 2005 19:56

I'd concentrate on getting through Hurn first!

Barnaby the Bear 15th Jul 2005 02:13

You seem confident.
Good luck with the college. If, or when you get through, despite the grumblings, its a good career. :}

rafalbert 17th Jul 2005 20:03

I am looking forward to it, I must admit. Coming from a military air traffic background, this should be a fresh challenge, learning a different way of controlling. With regards to number 2's comments, what is wrong with planning for the future post graduation? If I wasn't confident, it would be a waste of time attending the course.

Number2 18th Jul 2005 15:03

I admire your confidence. You'll soon learn that the way to get through the College is to play the 'grey man'. They don't seem to appreciate confidence!

I wish you good luck. I hope you find what you're looking for. Plan for what you like - be prepared for the worst.

Behindblooeyes 18th Jul 2005 15:46

"Plan for what you like - be prepared for the worst."

There's nothing like a bit of positive stroking to build someone's confidence....!

I really hope you make it my friend, the more who get through the better chance I have of seeing my pension!

Number2 18th Jul 2005 17:08

I merely meant he should have a fallback plan if he failed the course.

Not everybody passes!

fredator 20th Jul 2005 10:45

Rafalbert,

I wish you the best of luck at Bournemouth and as Number 2 says, make sure you play the grey man and don't display any flair or flexibility. I hope your face fits at Swanwick because depending on which Watch and sector you get to go on could influence your chances of success. There are some very militant ATCOs at Swanwick and when they aren't busy slagging-off the management, equipment, work conditions and pay, they tend to spend a lot of time making some of the UTs lives hell. I do stress that this is only a minority of the OJTI ATCOs but good luck anyway.

Widger 20th Jul 2005 10:47

Oooohhhhhh that's gonna get some reaction! stand by for incoming!:uhoh: :uhoh: :uhoh: :uhoh: :uhoh: :\ :\ :\ :ouch:

Arkady 20th Jul 2005 12:51

If it sounds like a troll and it smells like a troll it probably is a troll.

Number2 20th Jul 2005 14:04

Sometimes the truth hurts!

At least someone has got the nerve to agree with me.

Chilli Monster 20th Jul 2005 18:13

rafalbert

Check your PM's

runtobarlu 21st Jul 2005 12:28

Grey Man in Blue Uniform...how does that work !!!! BTW - with a MIL ATC background , you must have some idea how the system works!!!!!!

fredator 21st Jul 2005 15:23

Arkady,

Damn, I'll try and be more subtle next time, I thought at least someone would have bitten, especially from B Watch!!!!

:D

63000 Triple Zilch 21st Jul 2005 21:43

Arkady/Fredator,
The success rate for students on B Watch is as good, or better than on any of the other watches. Yet again another example of an unfounded urban myth that does no-one any good!! All that this misinformation succeeds in doing, is demotivating the students at a time that they need to be totally focussed on completing their training. Remember you were a student once, something many people tend to forget. The overwhelming majority of OJTIs at LACC are extremely dedicated to their students and work bl**dy hard, over and above what is required in order to get them to validity. Nearly all OJTIs feel the pain of failure every bit as much as the student, and I can assure you that there is much critical self examination by an OJTI when their student fails to make the grade!! Especially on B Watch!!!!

roger 21st Jul 2005 22:31

Some-one bit then:sad:

booke23 21st Jul 2005 23:28

As mentioned before, concentrate on getting through Hurn first.........I know of at least one ex-mil controller in recent times who has failed and been chopped without a re-course.



I seem to remember it helps to retain a degree of modesty about one's abilities when at Hurn.....

Number2 22nd Jul 2005 14:06

But nobody liked him and he had no respect for women!

Arkady 22nd Jul 2005 14:27

63000 Triple Zilch

That reply was directed at me because....?


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