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Barry Cuda 24th Dec 2004 09:38

NATS Destinations - YOU DECIDE
 
Hi all, but specifically NATS controllers... :uhoh:


Pop on to the Nats Net site, check out the new "21 destinations" micro site and use your perogative (sp?) to let them know whether you think they are useful, not bothered or, and I don't want to sway your vote here, IRRITATING.... :mad:

Merry Christmas to all, whatever your destination, religion, sexuality or politics. Let it be a peaceful one, and may Santa bring you a big sack of pressies :D


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(Come on guys, we're up to 27% now....):ok:

Vlad the Impaler 24th Dec 2004 09:44

Hey Barry,
We all need a goal in life. Just imagine April 2007 and all will be well. Probably go to hell in a basket inbetween but hey, who cares ?
Crappy Histmas

Barry Cuda 24th Dec 2004 11:49

Vlad, come April 2007 we'll all be looking at a new destination at this rate.... The dole queue!:{

bagpuss lives 24th Dec 2004 12:52

It's a brave man or woman who votes for IRRITATING using their own log-in. Remember, you're either with them or you're against them.

Expect a boarding card for your P45s in the post.

Barry Cuda 24th Dec 2004 14:46

Niteflight, If they don't like the answer, don't ask the question...

And what is all this "you're either with them..." bo:mad:s? The company are not some tyrannical regime run by a despotic crackpot out to make as much money as possible before the people cotton on to them, are they? :ouch:

GT3 24th Dec 2004 19:13

Use a collective log in to vote ;) LHR atc vote has been cast! I really want to know who are the people that are intrigued by them....surely the Red Barron cant cast that many votes???

PPRuNe Radar 24th Dec 2004 21:18

Mmmmm,

couldn't find the 'DILLIGAF' button anywhere :rolleyes: :p

bagpuss lives 24th Dec 2004 21:27

That's under Staff Information > FORMS > Resignation... I think

Not Long Now 26th Dec 2004 10:47

So what odds on the definition of SSE's being 'revised' so as to enable a destination to be reached?

Vlad the Impaler 27th Dec 2004 18:49

rearrange the words LAND, CLOUD and CUCKOO to form a well known phrase or saying. Then write out 200 times. "I will not have an airprox today" and hand in by friday afternoon.

niknak 28th Dec 2004 16:54

Its all very well making such posts, but if you're a member of the majority of "the great unwashed" who don't work for NATS, you can't access the site of the holy....:E

055166k 29th Dec 2004 07:00

niknak
 
The NATS private forum doesn't have much on it. and is not well read.........all relevant stuff apart from "house-keeping" is on main page.
The "natsnet" might be the internal NATS office type system that staff use within NATS. It is supposed to be accessible by all staff, but I know several of us just can't get to grips with it........every time some-one shows me how it works the system seems to change my log-in .....so I give up. Last time I got "in" there were 1857 unread messages, nearly all were utter garbage.
It is used very much like our staff paper as a management propaganda tool.......so you're missing nothing.
The "destinations" refers to some newthink strategy by a growing team of ex-railway management hirelings who are anxious to impress people....this has backfired bigtime.....they appear by evidence of their actions to be shallow, superficial and [most relevant] short term.
As long as NATS holds a monopoly in Area service provision there will never be a "real" need to change the status quo....talk is cheap.

Gonzo 29th Dec 2004 09:05

I actually sent an email (ironically enough!) to Corporate Comms the other day explaining that most operational staff (certainly at Heathrow) don't have time to log on to a computer to check their email account or read the intranet. In fact many don't even realise they have an email account.

That method might be fine for communicating with office staff who work at a computer desk, but the only way to be sure that ATCOs, ATSAs and ATCEs read any information is to leave a hard copy in the pigeonhole.

Barry Cuda 29th Dec 2004 09:50

Niknak, I appreciate that there are more than NATS controllers on here, I was just trying to reach everyone on every possible board...



Keep up the good work, though, NATS people. We were up to 39% this morning. Still, I am sure the balance will be redressed when all of the office wallahs return from the Christmas/New Year break that they all seem to be on.

Vlad the Impaler 29th Dec 2004 22:01

Whilst we are talking about imagining dates, has anyone come up with a TC moving date yet ? or is that a sore point...............

Over+Out 29th Dec 2004 23:00

The decision on when to make the decision has been delayed again. We might know something in Feb.
Now does this all sound familiar!

flowman 30th Dec 2004 05:43

What is the significance of the percentages you are referring to?
i.e. " we were up to 39% this morning"

Gonzo 30th Dec 2004 09:00

Flowman, a brief history....

Our new Chief Exec has 'imagined' where the company will be in April 2007, and come up with 21 targets, sorry, 'destinations' that we should be achieving by then. Although he admits he doesn't know how we can do it yet.

Anyway, these destinations have been promoted in a number of silly ways, giving everyone a template for a paper aeroplane with them on the back, handing out pseudo boarding cards inviting you this 'journey' we're on going towards our 'destinations'.

There's a page on our company internal intranet where we can vote on how we feel about the destinations, from excited to irritated.

Irritated is the one we're talking about here.

flowman 30th Dec 2004 09:24

Thank you Gonzo.
I'm 39% irritated just reading about it!:suspect:

Barry Cuda 30th Dec 2004 10:50

Vlad/Over + Out : The date for announcing the window for the possible date of the move of TC to Swanwick has been put back to February. Window is supposed to be Jan 1st to March 27th 2007.

The date for announcing the date has been put back to May/June... Expected date was 9th Jan 2007.

However, apparently the boffins have said that there is no way we can make any of those dates, which makes the Red Barons statement of "March 27th 2007 OR ELSE" sound like an AC to Swanwick 1996 farce all over again...

So the Red Baron has given them some more time to think about it!!!


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