A great place to be
 

Where is the safest place to fly and, the optimum ATC?

Capn Notarius,

Not Australia at the moment...either way !!!

In an aircraft.
1 inch above ground.
In your head, man.
At least 5 miles from other traffic at the same level.
None of the above.

Take your pick.

Big runway, one small aircraft.

I would say Heathrow Airspace........ but I retired 18 months ago!!!

The Professionals
 

Probably sectors 6 and 9 [ Berry Head / Lands End ] at Swanwick . These sectors are staffed almost exclusively by supervisory and managerial staff at ATCO1 grade or above.

<<These sectors are staffed almost exclusively by supervisory and managerial staff at ATCO1 grade or above.>>

Top guns, eh?? I'll bet......

The answer to this question is easy.

The best place to fly, that also has one of the safest Air Traffic Control System in the World is the United States. The limitless number of airports that are available, and some of the most awesome scenery makes flying in the United States both easy and inspiring.

For those that like combining flying and driving vacations, well again the options are limitless. And probably one of the most awesome avaition events in the world is the EAA AirVenture fly in that is held the end of July every year in Oshkosh Wisconsin. I hope that I see some of you there this summer.

Mike
NATCA FWA

Modesty is such a becomming trait.

Hmmm....working in the Middle East and dealing with the US military cowboys everyday, who see a clearance as a rough guide to where we would like them to go, and invariably tootle off in a completely different direction and then develop selective deafness when we try and alert them to all the oncoming traffic they are about to scare the bejesus out of, I would say the United States is one place I would be very scared to fly in. Sorry Mike, I know you'll take exception to that but I can only call it as I see it, and the Yank pilots over here are some of the least disciplined in every facet of flying going around.

Above FL600...........................

Amazing how things change over the years... Sheer patriotism prevents me from agreeing with Mike...... and one of his colleagues did say to me many years ago: "We're good, but not as good as the London guys!" (and it takes guts to say such things). However, I worked with the USAF in north Africa (both transport a/c and fighters) and they were by far the most professional crews I ever worked with. Contrary to what ANSA has experienced, those I worked with were the tops... never queried an instruction and were simply great people. No, the occasional freebie steak dinners we had thanks to our USAF ATC colleagues had nothing to do with it!!!

AirNoServicesAustralia,

The problem is that the military believes that the Middle East is just one giant play ground. Here in the U.S. they have to follow the same rules as everyone else, so we don't have the problems that you have encountered within the Middle East.


Mike
NATCA FWA

Mike
Don't bite off on what ANSA is trying to sell, he is simply a troll, not even that clever at trying to disguise it.

wouldn't this be better placed in the pilots questions forum?

Mike has probably got a point, as a lot of the US military traffic are doing there tactical flying and don't have a huge regard for the commercial stuff going on around them, so thanks for the explanation.

As far as West Coast goes, his initials says it all WC, ie. Toilet ie. Full of Crap. Nuff said.

West Coast, you'll have to back up a second. ANSA isn't a "troll", he's just stated what he's experienced. I've only been in the frozen north here a couple of months, but I would need more than 2 hands to count the number of flights that have originated from down south that have merrily ploughed northbound through Class D controlled airspace at altitudes that get in the way of IFR arriving and departing aircraft..........without making radio contact (and one or two without a transponder!).

The Soviet Union in its dying days had some attractions:

Take that lot together and you had the perfect "Free Skies" environment, albeit unplanned.

I guess GPS will have put the kibosh on it now though.

ANSA


"Every facet of flying going around"
How would you know about every facet? What controllers see is a notable but small part of getting the aircraft safely on its journey. You suppose to know all facets of airline and/or military flying?



You really must think your original. Your comment does allow insight in to your maturity. Mike stated his opinion about ATC prowess and you drag out something else in an inflammatory diatribe.

Been hearing that for a while, originality would be appreciated

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posted 14th June 2004 13:32

"Modesty is such a becomming trait."

Ability to spell is also fetching.

But has never been a pre-requisite on PPRuNe ;)