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foghorn 2nd Apr 2004 14:32

ICAO Flight Plan and STAR designators
 
Sorry if this is a dumb question, I can't find this in the Aerad's otherwise excellent section on ICAO flight plans, and I'm racking my brain from the ATPL days.

I know that you don't put a SID designator in the ROUTE section of an ICAO flight plan, you just put the fix/navaid upon which the SID is based.

What do you do with a STAR? Do you just put the initial fix? Or the initial fix, then the STAR designator, and then the final or holding fix of the STAR as if it were an airway? Or something different?

Thanks for your help.

bookworm 2nd Apr 2004 16:26

You just put the point on the STAR at which you will start the STAR. The only exception seems to be Germany, where they like SID and STAR designators to be inserted. e.g.

(FPL-GABCD-IG
-PA31/L-SR/C
-EDDG1600
-N0150F100 RKN5Y RKN B5 FLEVO R105 PAM L980 REFSO Y76 DET
-EGSS0200
-DOF/040403)

[This would use the ABBOT 1E arrival for EGSS, starting at DET]


(FPL-GABCD-IG
-PA31/L-SR/C
-EGSS1600
-N0150F100 CLN L620 HMM BOT4J
-EDDG0200
-DOF/040403)

[This would use the CLN SID at EGSS. Note the screwy BOT4J inserted at Muenster -- HMM's an IAF! You don't have to put it in but the IFPS will put it there anyway. ]

foghorn 3rd Apr 2004 07:09

Thanks, I just had a play with the CFMU website flight plan validator, and came to the same conclusion: it rejects STAR designators.


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