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Old 12th Dec 2021, 19:52
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Old 13th Dec 2021, 11:08
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If the Government, & its advisors, have their way, there won't be any a/c to control ! From home, or anywhere else. Just being flippant (hopefully).

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Old 13th Dec 2021, 15:36
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“I can’t believe we just landed a plane…”
Errr. You didn’t. The pilots did.
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Old 31st Dec 2021, 20:39
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So this is supposed to be "pushing EE full fibre to the limit"????

Really? Anyone got an idea how much bandwidth would be needed for the HD video feed, radio comms and ATC data streams?

The bandwidth test at the start showed 921 Mbps.
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Old 1st Jan 2022, 19:52
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Used to get a remote radar feed via a 56K modem back in the day.
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Old 1st Jan 2022, 21:48
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Presumably they all had ROCCs?
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Old 2nd Jan 2022, 09:06
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I would be interested to know if this actually happened as presented. I would like to think it did but then advertisers can stretch basic facts until they scream for mercy.
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Old 2nd Jan 2022, 19:39
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It was done exactly as portrayed. The house in the film is about 60 miles from Cambridge and everything was piped down there.
It could have all been done synthetically and with CG, but the director was adamant that everything was real.
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Old 3rd Jan 2022, 09:48
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If you listen carefully the aircraft contacts "Air Serbia Ops" and "runway 23 is available" not cleared to land etc. Not quite contact with ATC.....
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Old 3rd Jan 2022, 09:58
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Actually they call themselves "Air Suburbia Ops". The phraseology had to be removed enough from genuine ATC phraseology to satisfy the CAA that there could be no confusion on the flight deck as to the source of ATC comms v film comms.
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Old 3rd Jan 2022, 11:30
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Originally Posted by Comoman View Post
If you listen carefully the aircraft contacts "Air Serbia Ops" and "runway 23 is available" not cleared to land etc. Not quite contact with ATC.....
But the phrase 'runway 23 is available' could be used by an Air/Ground radio operator in the UK, hence Busters remark above about needing ROCCs (Radio Operators Certificate of Competence)
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Old 3rd Jan 2022, 11:34
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Originally Posted by NineEighteen View Post
Errr. You didn’t. The pilots did.
Might have been just the autopilot; an A320 type is fully capable of flying an approach to any runway if programmed to do so; doesn't need an ILS or any other ground based aid.
I've watched it done several times at Farnborough first in an A321 and later in an A320 and I had no ILS (hadn't yet been installed), I just monitored the approach using PAR and can verify each approach was stable and accurate..
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Old 3rd Jan 2022, 12:54
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Originally Posted by Hallucinogenix View Post
It was done exactly as portrayed. The house in the film is about 60 miles from Cambridge and everything was piped down there.
It could have all been done synthetically and with CG, but the director was adamant that everything was real.
Thank you sir (thumbs up).
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Old 3rd Jan 2022, 13:37
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Pleasure. And to whomever asked the question, yes - they all had ROCCs.
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