Flight Planning Filing PBN question
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Flight Planning Filing PBN question
Hi All,
Not sure if this question bongs in the ATC Issues forum but here goes:
So scenario is you’re doing a flight from X to Y and the Destination isn’t in the Navigation Database . When you’re filing the ATC flight plan how would you highlight this lack of Aircraft equipment if you had to file the ATC Flight Plan?
In ITEM 10 (EQUIPMENT) on an ICAO Flight Plan Form for a ‘normal’ flight my operator files the following: SDE1E2E3FGHIJ1J4J5M1RWXYZ/SB1D1 and in ITEM 18 (OTHER INFORMATION): PBN/A1B1C1D1L1O1S1
I assume (possibly incorrectly) for this scenario that you would remove the S1 (RNP APCH) and add a Remark RMK/ in plain text?
Not sure if this question bongs in the ATC Issues forum but here goes:
So scenario is you’re doing a flight from X to Y and the Destination isn’t in the Navigation Database . When you’re filing the ATC flight plan how would you highlight this lack of Aircraft equipment if you had to file the ATC Flight Plan?
In ITEM 10 (EQUIPMENT) on an ICAO Flight Plan Form for a ‘normal’ flight my operator files the following: SDE1E2E3FGHIJ1J4J5M1RWXYZ/SB1D1 and in ITEM 18 (OTHER INFORMATION): PBN/A1B1C1D1L1O1S1
I assume (possibly incorrectly) for this scenario that you would remove the S1 (RNP APCH) and add a Remark RMK/ in plain text?
Join Date: Mar 2014
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Good question.
We usually don't have that kind of information readily available in ATC....
The easiest thing would be to ask for an approach you're actually able to fly, which, if I understand you correctly, excludes RNP approaches....
But it's part of your planning to make sure you're ready for that flight, so just have the charts ready for the non-RNP approaches, and advice..... we will make it happen.
I would think that whether or not the destination is in the Data Base, is irrelevant when using the S1, the S1 indicates that the aircraft is capable of RNP approaches (LNAV only), not actually programmed for your destination....
Not being a technician, but can't you program it enroute using the "Recommended Coding Table"? Or does that require a bit more than that??
We usually don't have that kind of information readily available in ATC....
The easiest thing would be to ask for an approach you're actually able to fly, which, if I understand you correctly, excludes RNP approaches....
But it's part of your planning to make sure you're ready for that flight, so just have the charts ready for the non-RNP approaches, and advice..... we will make it happen.
I would think that whether or not the destination is in the Data Base, is irrelevant when using the S1, the S1 indicates that the aircraft is capable of RNP approaches (LNAV only), not actually programmed for your destination....
Not being a technician, but can't you program it enroute using the "Recommended Coding Table"? Or does that require a bit more than that??
