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Old 14th Jun 2020, 22:03
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FISO/AFISO online courses scheduled to start soon takeoff.academy . TAKEOFF AVIATION ACADEMY.
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Fascinating enterprise. Do tell a bit more.....
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Nothing seen on the website about it. Are you able to provide more details?
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Most licensed FISOs self study rather than pay out for courses; if you hold a PPL you already have most of the knowledge anyway; PPLs are exempt from some parts of the FISO exams in the UK; plus to commence training at an airfield as a FISO, you need an ROCC; does the course cover this too?.
I got my FISO License when I was still a valid ATCO in Aerodrome Control; you don't need to take any exams to get the license issued but you still need an ROCC and training for either 20 or 40 hours minimum before you can operate solo.

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FISO/AFISO online courses scheduled to start soon takeoff.academy . TAKEOFF AVIATION ACADEMY.
Please post the correct web address.
Is it approved for ATC training by the CAA? As far as I'm aware, there are only 2 colleges in the UK who are approved by the CAA and Takeoff Academy isn't one of them.
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Is it approved for ATC training by the CAA?
FIS is not ATC.
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FIS is not ATC.
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True but the website (when you can trace it) offers on-line ATC courses too but as pointed out by whowhenwhy, does not mention FISO courses.
Appears to be a company based in India offering ICAO ATC course; I don't know if the CAA recognise this as qualification for a UK CAA ATCO License.

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Fake or just free advertising?

Take a look at OPs moniker.
First posting too so couldn't put up live link anyway even if there is one.
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You no longer need to hold the ROCC to be an AFISO, just have passed the exam and practical. I think the change was introduced a few years back after the CAA reviewed CAP 1032 and meant that the AFISO didn't need to have the extra expense of obtaining the ROCC itself.

Bear in mind that the 2 UK colleges provide training in ATS and ATM with FIS and ATC Service being part of ATS. No UK college provides a CAA approved FISO course but I'm intrigued to find out what this organisation is providing.

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You no longer need to hold the ROCC to be an AFISO, just have passed the exam and practical. I think the change was introduced a few years back after the CAA reviewed CAP 1032 and meant that the AFISO didn't need to have the extra expense of obtaining the ROCC itself.

Bear in mind that the 2 UK colleges provide training in ATS and ATM with FIS and ATC Service being part of ATS. No UK college provides a CAA approved FISO course but I'm intrigued to find out what this organisation is providing.

You still need to hold an ROCC to commence training as a FISO for a 'first' validation of the license; it acts as a sort of Student FISO qualification.
CAP 452 Chapter 3 page 24 Introduction gives a list of when an ROCC is required.
It is a CAA requirement that any person who operates an aeronautical radio station must hold a certificate of competence and this includes FISOs under training.
As far as I'm aware, the CAA does not require approved courses for FISOs in the UK like it does approved courses for controllers but this may change in the near future.
Cwmbran used to run courses for FISOs which included ROCC as well but they terminated ATS courses some years ago; I'm not sure about Global but I think NATS only run courses for Area FISOs for their own needs.
After searching round the www.takeoff.talentlms.com/catalog/index website it would appear the training (costing 999.00p) is all to SERA standards and there is no mention of taking exams for the grant of the licence so this may not be included; I don't know where current UK examination centres are situated.

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