Wikiposts
Search
ATC Issues A place where pilots may enter the 'lions den' that is Air Traffic Control in complete safety and find out the answers to all those obscure topics which you always wanted to know the answer to but were afraid to ask.

AFISO/FISO

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 14th Jun 2020, 22:03
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
AFISO/FISO

FISO/AFISO online courses scheduled to start soon takeoff.academy . TAKEOFF AVIATION ACADEMY.
takeoff765 is offline  
Old 15th Jun 2020, 05:34
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: wherever will have me
Posts: 748
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Nothing seen on the website about it. Are you able to provide more details?
whowhenwhy is offline  
Old 15th Jun 2020, 08:19
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Wildest Surrey
Age: 75
Posts: 10,814
Received 95 Likes on 68 Posts
Most licensed FISOs self study rather than pay out for courses; if you hold a PPL you already have most of the knowledge anyway; PPLs are exempt from some parts of the FISO exams in the UK; plus to commence training at an airfield as a FISO, you need an ROCC; does the course cover this too?.
I got my FISO License when I was still a valid ATCO in Aerodrome Control; you don't need to take any exams to get the license issued but you still need an ROCC and training for either 20 or 40 hours minimum before you can operate solo.

Last edited by chevvron; 15th Jun 2020 at 11:21.
chevvron is offline  
Old 15th Jun 2020, 08:23
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Wildest Surrey
Age: 75
Posts: 10,814
Received 95 Likes on 68 Posts
Originally Posted by takeoff765
FISO/AFISO online courses scheduled to start soon takeoff.academy . TAKEOFF AVIATION ACADEMY.
Please post the correct web address.
Is it approved for ATC training by the CAA? As far as I'm aware, there are only 2 colleges in the UK who are approved by the CAA and Takeoff Academy isn't one of them.
chevvron is offline  
Old 15th Jun 2020, 10:24
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: South of England
Posts: 1,172
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Is it approved for ATC training by the CAA?
FIS is not ATC.
2 s
2 sheds is offline  
Old 15th Jun 2020, 11:23
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Wildest Surrey
Age: 75
Posts: 10,814
Received 95 Likes on 68 Posts
Originally Posted by 2 sheds
FIS is not ATC.
2 s
True but the website (when you can trace it) offers on-line ATC courses too but as pointed out by whowhenwhy, does not mention FISO courses.
Appears to be a company based in India offering ICAO ATC course; I don't know if the CAA recognise this as qualification for a UK CAA ATCO License.

Last edited by chevvron; 16th Jun 2020 at 11:16.
chevvron is offline  
Old 15th Jun 2020, 11:24
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Wolverhampton
Posts: 407
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Fake or just free advertising?

Take a look at OPs moniker.
First posting too so couldn't put up live link anyway even if there is one.
Advertising?
Flying Hi is offline  
Old 15th Jun 2020, 13:05
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: wherever will have me
Posts: 748
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
You no longer need to hold the ROCC to be an AFISO, just have passed the exam and practical. I think the change was introduced a few years back after the CAA reviewed CAP 1032 and meant that the AFISO didn't need to have the extra expense of obtaining the ROCC itself.

Bear in mind that the 2 UK colleges provide training in ATS and ATM with FIS and ATC Service being part of ATS. No UK college provides a CAA approved FISO course but I'm intrigued to find out what this organisation is providing.

whowhenwhy is offline  
Old 16th Jun 2020, 07:26
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Wildest Surrey
Age: 75
Posts: 10,814
Received 95 Likes on 68 Posts
Originally Posted by whowhenwhy
You no longer need to hold the ROCC to be an AFISO, just have passed the exam and practical. I think the change was introduced a few years back after the CAA reviewed CAP 1032 and meant that the AFISO didn't need to have the extra expense of obtaining the ROCC itself.

Bear in mind that the 2 UK colleges provide training in ATS and ATM with FIS and ATC Service being part of ATS. No UK college provides a CAA approved FISO course but I'm intrigued to find out what this organisation is providing.

You still need to hold an ROCC to commence training as a FISO for a 'first' validation of the license; it acts as a sort of Student FISO qualification.
CAP 452 Chapter 3 page 24 Introduction gives a list of when an ROCC is required.
It is a CAA requirement that any person who operates an aeronautical radio station must hold a certificate of competence and this includes FISOs under training.
As far as I'm aware, the CAA does not require approved courses for FISOs in the UK like it does approved courses for controllers but this may change in the near future.
Cwmbran used to run courses for FISOs which included ROCC as well but they terminated ATS courses some years ago; I'm not sure about Global but I think NATS only run courses for Area FISOs for their own needs.
After searching round the www.takeoff.talentlms.com/catalog/index website it would appear the training (costing £999.00p) is all to SERA standards and there is no mention of taking exams for the grant of the licence so this may not be included; I don't know where current UK examination centres are situated.

Last edited by chevvron; 16th Jun 2020 at 11:14.
chevvron is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.