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CAP 413 Edition 23 - is this what we are now to expect of UK CAA?

Old 8th Jun 2020, 09:13
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Originally Posted by Gonzo View Post
New, revised Edition 23 (corrigendum) will be published on Monday, effective in August. Let's see how many errors and inconsistencies are corrected!
After many sleepless nights of eager anticipation what do we get?

"Placement of surface wind now precedes the clearance" but then goes on to say it doesn't.

Chapter 2 "Military Aircraft Callsigns" still written in militarise with "RT" still present.

Understand that the formal complaint filed by "a stakeholder" in respect of the original attempt at Ed 23 has never been responded to, not even a "thank you for bringing this to our attention".

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Old 8th Jun 2020, 12:03
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Dunning-Kruger Effect at work ?
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Old 8th Jun 2020, 12:15
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Dunning-Kruger Effect at work ?
Or is it a case of “pay peanuts........”?
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Old 8th Jun 2020, 15:33
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Unbelievable and utterly incompetent. Examples given of surface wind information being placed between the runway and the clearance itself when the latter two elements constitute a standard phrase, the first qualifying the second. Where is the justification for this - what reference from ICAO or Europe? AND the date (the year!) is still wrong in the Revision History, apart from all the "legacy" errors that are outstanding and have not been addressed!

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Old 12th Jun 2020, 09:22
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On the same theme as this thread, returning to how simple life used to be, if you in the past had a query on the applicability or interpretation of UK Civil Aviation legislation you could phone or email the Legal Department and in a short period of time a gentleman (I stress "gentleman" as a mark of my esteem for him) would come back to you to explain.

Had a recent need to ascertain the applicability of a particular ANO Article so emailed. Got a relatively quick (by CAA standards) response to indicate that "the CAA is not in the business of dispensing legal advice", together with a suggestion that I obtain legal advice from elsewhere!

The "gentleman", and the values that he stood for, appears to have both retired.
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