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French ATC Strikes season starting.

Old 9th May 2019, 15:05
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French ATC Strikes season starting.

Calling any French ATC out here willing to explain why are you striking so much every year and especially during summer season?
No judging, just very curious to know what is driving you into causing so many disruptions..

Many Thanks

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Old 9th May 2019, 16:35
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I’m not French, but maybe they feel strongly enough to stand up for whatever grievance they have which is not being addressed by negotiation. Striking workers tend not to get paid and probably don’t take such action lightly. Good luck to them!
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Old 9th May 2019, 16:41
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It’s my understanding that many of the strikes in recent years are nothing at all to do with ATC specifically but part of a wider industrial action from the wider union for French public sector employees.

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Old 9th May 2019, 16:52
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the ATC are not private employees in France , don't forget that .
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Old 9th May 2019, 17:01
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It is not an ATC strike but a general strike of the public servants against a reform of their statute proposed by the French Government. Aviation related staff , including non operational ones follows the unions call , some not , Hence some disruptions/ delays in airports and ATC centers. Yes most Aviation related services in France are public service , including ATC.
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Old 13th May 2019, 20:38
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Actually I prefer french ATC on strike and flight cancelled instead of the usual BS if you have to go into the Paris area.

e.g. today - just released by Swiss and thrown into the french meat grinder - TINIL9B, Mach .75 max. ok. Shortly later, turn left, 20(which brought us WELL OFF the STAR in the wrong direction). Speed 280kts. Descent according STAR, BUT rate minimum 2000 ft(which was to much for that star which lead anyway to a far to early descent, talking about 100 NM+ here and not +/- 10NM), blablabla(and they wonder why pollution is rising, well, ask ATC). Made the STAR at the end useless, but involved , french style, to much talking. Not even mentioning the safety hazard talking in French language(who ever was thinking that might be a clever idea, but hey, we talking about French here, like their Spanish counterparts) with zillion of Air France guys and you had no clue where this guys are ghosting around(as it was 30 years ago and will be 100 years in future considering the french).

Fact is - they are inefficient, striking far to much(or actually to less in my taste, hell, close down the entire french airspace, who cares) and sometimes lacking the understanding of the abilities of aircraft(reduce speed 250kts AND increase rate of descent, (well, a Boeing is not a Renault with blocked brakes). 2 language ATC(french and english) is just not efficient and an other sign of french arrogance/ignorance. Or are the germans doing such a stupid thing talking to german carriers only in german? Exactly.

Best thing I still remember from french ATC, waaaay back on our way to LFPO - descent 6000 ft, inbound MEL, max rate of descent, NO speed limit(well, we expected a quick lineup for Orly, instead...). 3 NM before MEL - ENTER MEL hold-------looooooooooooollllllll, Fantastic entry into the hold as you could imagine. Nice 6 NM overshoot.... all safe in baguette land....Strike. For better training. Payscale should be all right(if not far overpaid). Sorry about my bitterness, but enduring that french crap now for 30 years and it just gets worse....

You can see that french ATC works for the state. Very clearly. Take it as compliment or offence. I honestly do not care but french ATC.... bah.
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Old 15th May 2019, 07:41
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You can see that french ATC works for the state. Very clearly.
Yes ? how ? you mean it is like in the USA? just curious how you can see if ATC is privatized or state run , what are the differences.
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