NATS Experienced Controller Programme
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Agree with Gonzo.
The pool of ATCO's has changed considerably in the last decade because of the reasons Gonzo cited.
NATS has recruited allot of experienced non NATS controllers recently and yes NATS has lost controllers to ANS.
The recent pay reviews at ANS and Birmingham demonstrate that there is a need for ANSP's to start reacting to the market and review their terms and conditions (that doesn't always mean more money).
An airport mentioned earlier has lost 6 ATCO's in the last year with ATCO's attracted to better pensions, annual pay reviews and overall improved conditions.
Fundamentally there aren't enough experienced controllers to fill the vacancies, and when an ANSP doe's advertise, it can take 3 months plus for the recruitment process (depending on the HR department).
If you find a suitable candidate, they usually have a 3 month notice period. The training (which depending on the unit) can take anything from a few months to over a year depending on the availability of OJTI's who need to ensure their own competency hours are maintained.
ANSP's need to retain their experience, and that starts by looking after the staff they already have.
The pool of ATCO's has changed considerably in the last decade because of the reasons Gonzo cited.
NATS has recruited allot of experienced non NATS controllers recently and yes NATS has lost controllers to ANS.
The recent pay reviews at ANS and Birmingham demonstrate that there is a need for ANSP's to start reacting to the market and review their terms and conditions (that doesn't always mean more money).
An airport mentioned earlier has lost 6 ATCO's in the last year with ATCO's attracted to better pensions, annual pay reviews and overall improved conditions.
Fundamentally there aren't enough experienced controllers to fill the vacancies, and when an ANSP doe's advertise, it can take 3 months plus for the recruitment process (depending on the HR department).
If you find a suitable candidate, they usually have a 3 month notice period. The training (which depending on the unit) can take anything from a few months to over a year depending on the availability of OJTI's who need to ensure their own competency hours are maintained.
ANSP's need to retain their experience, and that starts by looking after the staff they already have.
...such as the rehashing of training and retention of those who did not make it through Area/TMA/TC Approach validation, what, ten years ago? Before then, many who didn't quite make it to validation at West Drayton/Swanwick would still have a Student aerodrome rating, and would either stay within NATS and work at an airport, or leave NATS and be picked up by another airport. Airports back then had effectively a 'free' pipeline of trainees, and there was a large pool of them....
Originally Posted by Gonzo
We live in interesting times.
I haven't noticed any change in motivation in trainees I've met to those I trained with nearly 20 years ago.
I haven't noticed any change in motivation in trainees I've met to those I trained with nearly 20 years ago.
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The invitation for the tests arrived around 4 or 5 weeks after the interview, they'll give you plenty of time to have it done, it's the typical psychometric assessments you can find online.
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Yes, I am in, like you say, somewhat positive. Waiting for the info as well Toblerones.
When I checked online didn't see any connection with this whatsoever.
Yes, I am in, like you say, somewhat positive. Waiting for the info as well Toblerones.
When I checked online didn't see any connection with this whatsoever.
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Well then, that's a plan for week I'd willingly swap for 
Lucky you! You can always get the mail when docked I'm sure... It'll be fine. Enjoy it! That's one on my bucket list.
Lucky you! You can always get the mail when docked I'm sure... It'll be fine. Enjoy it! That's one on my bucket list.
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