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NATS Lose Gatwick Contract (Split thread)

Old 7th Oct 2014, 13:05
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Seems futile to me. A court might find fault in the process used to award the contract to DFS and order a re-run. However contracts can be awarded on all sorts of qualitative issues as well as objective criteria that will be decided by Gatwick not by a court. I would be very surprised if Gatwick go out of their way to admit they got it wrong!
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Old 7th Oct 2014, 15:06
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Business' are not people, I don't think one taking another to court necessarily leaves the same sour grapes as if you sued your neighbour over his fence (or whatever). It's just business. I don't know the details but in theory it could be something serious like DFS being given the opportunity to change their bid after the close date on advice from Gatwick. Even if Gatwick simply don't provide NATS with enough feedback then they are able to start a legal process.

If Gatwick are forced to go through the process again then NATS can bid again and if Gatwick don't award them the contract they will have to justify to NATS why not. Virgin Trains have recently had a similar experience, this is nothing new:

BBC News - West Coast line: Branson to bid again in two years
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Old 7th Oct 2014, 21:55
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Very interesting. As a business having to rerun the contract negotiations. Gatwick have a real chance of really squeezing this deal. Let's see what curve ball comes out of this.

As for the gatwick controllers...I hope you get some sort of stability soon as it's the impact on you that we all hope for a positive outcome.
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Old 8th Oct 2014, 11:49
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Full text of the High Court decision is here:

NATS (Services) Ltd v Gatwick Airport Ltd & Anor [2014] EWHC 3133 (TCC) (02 October 2014)

An interesting read - if you can wade through the legal jargon.

Thoughts are with those colleagues at Gatwick who have even more uncertainty to deal with.....

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Old 8th Oct 2014, 12:41
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Thanks for the link, Data Dad.
As far as I can see, the document covers a request by NATS for an injunction to be placed on GAL preventing them going ahead with the new contract with DFS until the complaint by NATS regarding the tender process is settled by a trial in court.
It also states that if GAL win then NATS have to pay damages but if NATS win then instead of damages GAL has to award them the contract.
I can't see anything that tells me what NATS complaint about the procurement process actually is. Maybe I just missed it!
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Old 9th Oct 2014, 07:16
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From what I understand Gatwick and DFS came to an agreement not to divulge details of their contract.

All very intriguing.
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From what I understand Gatwick and DFS came to an agreement not to divulge details of their contract.

All very intriguing.
Paul Reid leading the DFS bid, Paul Barron a senior advisor to GIP, I suppose a close personal relationship would more likely lead to a lack of transparency.
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Old 9th Oct 2014, 17:10
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Paul Reid leading the DFS bid, Paul Barron a senior advisor to GIP
Birds of a feather...
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Old 1st Nov 2014, 14:20
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I see that the Safeskys website no longer invites applications for ATCOs at Aberporth, has NATS managed to retain the contract?
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Old 28th Nov 2014, 10:09
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What's the latest on this situation? It's gone very quiet, what sort of time scale do these legal battles usually pan out for?
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Old 28th Nov 2014, 22:20
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I don't think this legal battle will rage for too long...
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Old 29th Nov 2014, 06:44
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All done...non-disclosed out of court settlement,contract remains with DFS.
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All done...non-disclosed out of court settlement,contract remains with DFS.
Love to see where you got that info from Gapster, though I'd be very surprised given that the legal challenge revolves around more issues than the cash.....or are you just being mischievous
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Old 29th Nov 2014, 12:27
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No, he's not being mischevious.
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Old 29th Nov 2014, 12:33
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Be nice if someone could have told us at Gatwick first then!
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Check the Hub
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Old 29th Nov 2014, 16:25
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Ta Gonzo.

Wouldn't try to create mischief over an issue like this vespasia, my sympathies are entirely with you guys at LGW.
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Sad to hear this, especially given the identities of 2 of the individuals in the plot.
Best wishes EGKK folks.
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Old 29th Nov 2014, 21:22
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Non-disclosed

Although it's non disclosed, won't it have to show up in the annual accounts next year? If anyone is clever enough to workout under what guise it's there as.
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Old 30th Nov 2014, 11:57
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After being told that we were contesting the contract as "a matter of high principle" it would appear that those same high principles are saleable, just like pretty much everything else these days.
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